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I feel like ContestedSequel and TooBleakStoppedCaring are seriously shoehorned in here. Especially since general consensus is that the movie is, if anything, a SurprisinglyImprovedSequel to \'\'Spectre\'\' especially given the infamous TruobledProduction this movie had. It\'s definitely rated higher than its immediate predecessor.
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TooBleakStoppedCaring also doesn\'t really apply because, well, people cared. The movie managed to have the third highest box office of a Bond movie despite being a pandemic release.
* From that page\'s note to editors: This trope frequently gets misused for any work that is dark, angsty, or depressing. That is just Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. It only applies when \'\'\'there is no meaningful conflict\'\'\' because everyone is awful and the world sucks, and therefore \'\'\'there are no stakes for the audience\'\'\'. If people enjoy the work despite its tone, this trope does not apply.
And this entry fails on both those points. In fact, the entry outright contradicts the second to last point because the problem is that people are sad because they care for the characters and there was conflict. And the last point doesn\'t apply because the movie was overall well-regarded and did shockingly well at the box-office
* From that page\'s note to editors: This trope frequently gets misused for any work that is dark, angsty, or depressing. That is just Administrivia/ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontLike. It only applies when \'\'\'there is no meaningful conflict\'\'\' because everyone is awful and the world sucks, and therefore \'\'\'there are no stakes for the audience\'\'\'. If people enjoy the work despite its tone, this trope does not apply.
And this entry fails on both those points. In fact, the entry outright contradicts the second to last point because the problem is that people are sad because they care for the characters and there was conflict. And the last point doesn\'t apply because the movie was overall well-regarded and did shockingly well at the box-office
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* ContestedSequel: Critical and public opinions on the movie have ranged from \\\"it\\\'s excellent\\\", \\\"it\\\'s good, but the ending. . .\\\", to \\\"it sucks/worst Bond movie ever\\\". Ironically, all three opinions are based on the main elements of the film--the stunning conclusion [[spoiler: in which Bond is killed, as well as him NOT bedding every woman he meets and having fathered a child.]]
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: One of the main reasons behind the movie\\\'s ContestedSequel status. [[Film/{{Spectre}} The last movie]] ended on a positive note with Spectre and Blofeld defeated and Bond quitting [=MI6=] to live a peaceful life with Madeleine. But here, not only do the two part ways [[spoiler: due to a misunderstanding caused by Blofeld]], but by the end of the movie, [[spoiler: not only is Bond\\\'s best friend Felix Leiter dead, Bond later [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices himself for Madeleine and Matilde due to him being poisoned by Safin]].]]
* TooBleakStoppedCaring: One of the main reasons behind the movie\\\'s ContestedSequel status. [[Film/{{Spectre}} The last movie]] ended on a positive note with Spectre and Blofeld defeated and Bond quitting [=MI6=] to live a peaceful life with Madeleine. But here, not only do the two part ways [[spoiler: due to a misunderstanding caused by Blofeld]], but by the end of the movie, [[spoiler: not only is Bond\\\'s best friend Felix Leiter dead, Bond later [[HeroicSacrifice sacrifices himself for Madeleine and Matilde due to him being poisoned by Safin]].]]
