Discussion History Main / EpiphanyTherapy

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it\\\'s nothing more than a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purges the \\\'new\\\' BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"This led to her frequently leading multi-idol events and being the center of attention of a lot of hololive\\\'s content, especially outside of Japan.\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of that in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entries to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it\\\'s nothing more than a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purges the \\\'new\\\' BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of that in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entries to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

Pretty sure the reason Roberu got his 3D model first is because he was the one who reached the 100,000 subscriber milestone before any other holostars.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purges the \\\'new\\\' BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of that in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entries to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purges the \\\'new\\\' BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of that in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purges the \\\'new\\\' BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

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~@DRCEQ

IMO, your Gura entry is fine if you move it to FaceOfTheBand. Not only is it a YMMV entry, but Fubuki already has an entry there and is pretty much the same thing but just hololive as a whole. Technically if we follow the strict definition of FaceOfTheBand then we would need to remove Fubuki\\\'s entry too. But let\\\'s not forget that Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible has been stated as a reason why we shouldn\\\'t just remove every BreakoutCharacter entries we have right now. So if BreakoutCharacter gets the Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible treatment, then why doesn\\\'t FaceOfTheBand too, hmm?

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purges the \\\'new\\\' BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purges the current BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purge the current BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. \\\'\\\'\\\'IF\\\'\\\'\\\' we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purge the current BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well be what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. If we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or link etc. embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purge the current BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well as what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. If we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

Pretty sure that the reason Roberu got his 3D model first is because he was the one who reached the 100,000 subscriber milestone before any other holostars.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or evidence/link embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purge the current BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well as what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. If we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purge the current BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well as what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Now, nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. If we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.

But that\\\'s beside the point: Reasons like \\\'\\\'\\\"Roberu\\\'s entry makes sense considering one could argue that his sudden burst of popularity played a huge part on the Holostars branch getting more recognition\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"I could say the same about Fubuki considering she played a huge part on Hololive getting more recognition on the overseas.\\\"\\\'\\\' on their own are subjective statements. Sure, it might makes a lot of sense but without evidence that we can easily see (either in the work itself or embedded in the entry), it might as well be just a popular opinion, i.e. a YMMV trope.

The same problem also purge the current BreakoutCharacter entries listed above: For example, everything stated in the Miko entry might as well as what they \\\'\\\'think\\\'\\\' happened, since there\\\'s no way to validify what they said is actually true. Same deal with quotes like \\\'\\\'\\\"Korone enjoyed a massive burst of popularity throughout 2020 thanks to streaming popular games such as DOOM (2016) and Banjo-Kazooie, as well as the resulting memes from it.\\\"\\\'\\\' and \\\'\\\'\\\"Coco became very popular worldwide soon after her debut\\\"\\\'\\\'.

Nobody would bat an eye if you wrote any of this in the YMMV page, but unfortunately BreakoutCharacter is NOT a YMMV trope. That\\\'s why I suggest moving these entry to another YMMV trope if we were to keep them. If we can\\\'t find an exact YMMV trope for these examples, then the best we can do is to move them to the EnsembleDarkHorse trope with Administrivia/TropesAreFlexible to ignore the main/minor character requirement, I guess.