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@WickedIcon: Honestly, that\'s entirely fair, though I think you are making it way more than an issue than it actually is. Kevin Spacey\'s sexual harassment accusations are very prominently described in his own Creator page, for example, and that is also a very unpleasant issue that is not swept under the rug, though it is written in a non-accusatory tone. Maybe the XXXTetacion issue is more that nobody bothered to write that into his page? Bug the moderators about this topic if you\'re not sure about it.
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@WickedIcon: Honestly, that\\\'s entirely fair, though I think you are making it way more than an issue than it actually is. Kevin Spacey\\\'s sexual harassment accusations are very prominently described in his own Creator page, for example, and that is also a very unpleasant issue that is not swept under the rug, though it is written in a non-accusatory tone and doesn\\\'t go into too much in-depth detail on how he\\\'s an awful person. Because TV Tropes is not the place for such things; we are not Wikipedia, we don\\\'t go in-depth into the various controversies and drama that creators are involved in, and usually saying that \\\"oh, this creator got involved in this major scandal\\\" is usually enough for the purpose of their page.
This is not \\\"avoiding unpleasant topics because TV Tropes are too cowardly to talk about it,\\\" like you accuse the site of being, it\\\'s \\\"not talking about the topic because it\\\'s outside of the scope of the wiki,\\\" especially considering the information detailing a person\\\'s crimes, alleged or not, is easily found elsewhere online, often on sites that have far more rigorous fact-checking and sourcing requirements than TV Tropes extremely laissez-faire attitude towards such things. The \\\"main body\\\" (the text before the tropes?) of most non-UsefulNotes/{{Administrivia}} tend to be rather laconic anyway, so bogging it down with a detailed breakdown of someone\\\'s sins is rather unelegant and just bogs the page down.
And on a more personal note, I feel like the XXXTentacion issue is very personal to you, considering how you brought it up twice at this point. Maybe see if you can add it on his page as a more specific example to his domestic abuse allegations, or at least bring that up in his Discussions page first if you are not sue?
This is not \\\"avoiding unpleasant topics because TV Tropes are too cowardly to talk about it,\\\" like you accuse the site of being, it\\\'s \\\"not talking about the topic because it\\\'s outside of the scope of the wiki,\\\" especially considering the information detailing a person\\\'s crimes, alleged or not, is easily found elsewhere online, often on sites that have far more rigorous fact-checking and sourcing requirements than TV Tropes extremely laissez-faire attitude towards such things. The \\\"main body\\\" (the text before the tropes?) of most non-UsefulNotes/{{Administrivia}} tend to be rather laconic anyway, so bogging it down with a detailed breakdown of someone\\\'s sins is rather unelegant and just bogs the page down.
And on a more personal note, I feel like the XXXTentacion issue is very personal to you, considering how you brought it up twice at this point. Maybe see if you can add it on his page as a more specific example to his domestic abuse allegations, or at least bring that up in his Discussions page first if you are not sue?
