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If you want a {{Hypocrite}} entry involving Raven and Yang -- it\'s that argument that\'s the call out to this trope. It\'s that fight about strength and that Raven\'s description of herself as strong is hypocrisy to hide what a weak, frightened coward she secretly is.
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If you want a {{Hypocrite}} entry involving Raven and Yang -- it\\\'s that argument that\\\'s the call out to this trope. It\\\'s that fight about strength and that Raven\\\'s description of herself as strong is hypocrisy to hide what a weak, frightened coward she secretly is that is the example that you\\\'re looking for.
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The issue of Raven warning Yang that next time they meet will go far worse and Yang sadly pointing out that she wasn\'t kind this time (followed by Raven\'s quiet \'I know\' once Yang was out of earshot) is, at best, CallingTheOldManOut. It\'s not the hypocrisy trope either way: it\'s a common thing in storytelling where someone describes their behaviour as having been \'kind\' when it clearly hasn\'t been as a sense of irony -- everyone in the scene (including the speaker) knows that \'kindness\' isn\'t what they mean and definitely isn\'t how they behaved, and that what it really is, is a threat about future behaviour. But it isn\'t the hypocrisy trope. There should be a trope for it in its own right -- it\'s common enough.
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The issue of Raven warning Yang that next time they meet will go far worse and Yang sadly pointing out that she wasn\\\'t kind this time (followed by Raven\\\'s quiet \\\'I know\\\' once Yang was out of earshot) is a common thing in storytelling where someone describes their behaviour as having been \\\'kind\\\' when it clearly hasn\\\'t been as a sense of irony -- everyone in the scene (including the speaker) knows that \\\'kindness\\\' isn\\\'t what they mean and definitely isn\\\'t how they behaved, and that what it really is, is a threat about future behaviour. But it isn\\\'t the hypocrisy trope. There should be a trope for it in its own right -- it\\\'s common enough.
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That leaves the argument between Yang and Raven in the finale as the sole candidate for this trope. The bit in that argument that\'s the candidate is where Yang calls out Raven\'s definition of strength. Raven\'s consistent attitude has been \'the strong survive, the weak perish\', and when Yang starts asking \'questions\' of Raven\'s motives about everything, Raven yells at her that she doesn\'t understand what Raven\'s been through and how she\'s had to become strong to survive. That\'s when Yang tells her to shut up, that she doesn\'t know the meaning of strength, with the argument ending on the clear indication that Yang\'s position is correct: that Raven\'s has immense power, but she\'s weak, while Yang has little power, but is much stronger than Raven.
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That leaves the argument between Yang and Raven in the finale as the sole candidate for this trope. The bit in that argument that\\\'s the candidate is where Yang calls out Raven\\\'s definition of strength. Raven\\\'s consistent attitude has been \\\'the strong survive, the weak perish\\\', and when Yang starts asking \\\'questions\\\' of Raven\\\'s motives about everything, Raven yells at her that she doesn\\\'t understand what Raven\\\'s been through and how she\\\'s had to become strong to survive. That\\\'s when Yang tells her to shut up, that she doesn\\\'t know the meaning of strength, and that Raven\\\'s life hack might be to live by the idea of strength but what she\\\'s really doing is living her life as a weak person would. The argument ends on the clear indication that Yang\\\'s position is correct: that Raven\\\'s has immense power, but she\\\'s weak, while Yang has little power, but is much stronger than Raven.
