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* Lady Catelyn \\\"Cat\\\" Tully-Stark. She is calm and a source of wisdom and advice to others, while maintaining her role in society. The Tully motto is \\\"Family, Duty, Honor,\\\" and those are the words she lives by.
** THIS PART ABOVE IS TRUE
* Catelyn can be considered more of a subversion of the ProperLady. At first glance she looks like one, but she is a WickedStepmother, spiteful, petty, arrogant, willful and someone that DidNotThinkThisThrough. She is the one that kickstarts the War of the Five Kings that sees her family destroyed, and keep interfering and making more and more disastrous choices.
That is not accurate interpretation of the story and the character.
** She\\\'s not a Wicked Stepmother. She\\\'s just distant to Jon Snow because he\\\'s her husband\\\'s bastard son. In that society, she\\\'s not supposed to be his adoptive mother or parental figure. Importantly, she\\\'s not abusive, just cold and not loving towards him.
** those rapid-fire adjectives and epithets:
*** spiteful (I don\\\'t recall anything of that sort)
*** petty (ditto, when and how?)
*** arrogant (possibly, but she\\\'s one of the top aristocrats in the feudal society, both by her birth and by marriage; no wonder she can be entitled)
*** willful (she\\\'s determined to save her family, but she hardly does bad things on purpose)
*** someone that DidNotThinkThisThrough (this is correct but that hardly counts as subversion of Proper Lady; however, the thing that she takes an active role and doesn\\\'t agree with men all the time in the story might count as subversion)
*** She is the one that kickstarts the War of the Five Kings that sees her family destroyed (LOL; so many events lead to that war; and if anything, Catelyn and the Starks are those who are morally superior to others in the war; if if can be traced to one person, the war instigator would be Petyr \\\"Littlefinger\\\" Baelish)
*** she keeps interfering (yes, she does, because she wants her family to survive and win)
*** making more and more disastrous choices (as do other characters in the setting; she\\\'s not an omniscient character who knows an outcome of the events as its author or readers)
** THIS PART ABOVE IS TRUE
* Catelyn can be considered more of a subversion of the ProperLady. At first glance she looks like one, but she is a WickedStepmother, spiteful, petty, arrogant, willful and someone that DidNotThinkThisThrough. She is the one that kickstarts the War of the Five Kings that sees her family destroyed, and keep interfering and making more and more disastrous choices.
That is not accurate interpretation of the story and the character.
** She\\\'s not a Wicked Stepmother. She\\\'s just distant to Jon Snow because he\\\'s her husband\\\'s bastard son. In that society, she\\\'s not supposed to be his adoptive mother or parental figure. Importantly, she\\\'s not abusive, just cold and not loving towards him.
** those rapid-fire adjectives and epithets:
*** spiteful (I don\\\'t recall anything of that sort)
*** petty (ditto, when and how?)
*** arrogant (possibly, but she\\\'s one of the top aristocrats in the feudal society, both by her birth and by marriage; no wonder she can be entitled)
*** willful (she\\\'s determined to save her family, but she hardly does bad things on purpose)
*** someone that DidNotThinkThisThrough (this is correct but that hardly counts as subversion of Proper Lady; however, the thing that she takes an active role and doesn\\\'t agree with men all the time in the story might count as subversion)
*** She is the one that kickstarts the War of the Five Kings that sees her family destroyed (LOL; so many events lead to that war; and if anything, Catelyn and the Starks are those who are morally superior to others in the war; if if can be traced to one person, the war instigator would be Petyr \\\"Littlefinger\\\" Baelish)
*** she keeps interfering (yes, she does, because she wants her family to survive and win)
*** making more and more disastrous choices (as do other characters in the setting; she\\\'s not an omniscient character who knows an outcome of the events as its author or readers)
