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As far as the Cersei example goes, I think the language itself is uncomfortable (\\\"Despite not getting the \\\'\\\'\\\'brutal death many have hoped for\\\'\\\'\\\' a character as evil and rotten as her, \\\'\\\'\\\'seeing Cersei dead and (a little) bloodied is still a satisfying sight that also makes up for what many believed to be an undeserved dignified death\\\'\\\'\\\'.\\\") and because of that, I think it might still be on the FlameBait side. As you and [=XFllo=] have discussed, Cersei isn\\\'t the CompleteMonster Joffrey, Ramsay, and Walder Frey were. She is evil, she is rotten, and I expected her death to go another way (ie. the Maggie the Frog prophecy -- Valonqar or being directly cast down by the hands of a \\\"younger and more beautiful queen\\\") but I myself think the example\\\'s language is too harsh for her character. Personally, I\\\'m uncomfortable with the notion that it\\\'s satisfying to see any character dead and bloodied up.

Maybe if it were rewritten in a way that wasn\\\'t focusing on how great it was to see Cersei bodily broken and bloody? I don\\\'t know, I\\\'m no expert in this trope, I agree with what [=XFllo=] has said and she looks to have more expertise with CartharsisFactor than I do (having pointed out it\\\'s primarily a video game trope) but those are my thoughts.

As far as the Cersei example goes, I think the language itself is uncomfortable (\\\"Despite not getting the \\\'\\\'\\\'brutal death many have hoped for\\\'\\\'\\\' a character as evil and rotten as her, \\\'\\\'\\\'seeing Cersei dead and (a little) bloodied is still a satisfying sight that also makes up for what many believed to be an undeserved dignified death\\\'\\\'\\\'.\\\") and because of that, I think it might still be on the FlameBait side. As you and [=XFllo=] have discussed, Cersei isn\\\'t the CompleteMonster Joffrey, Ramsay, and Walder Frey were. She is evil, she is rotten, and I expected her death to go another way (ie. the Maggie the Frog prophecy -- Valonqar or being directly cast down by the hands of a \\\"younger and more beautiful queen\\\") but myself think that language is too harsh for her character. Personally, I\\\'m uncomfortable with the notion that it\\\'s satisfying to see any character dead and bloodied up.

Maybe if it were rewritten in a way that wasn\\\'t focusing on how great it was to see Cersei bodily broken and bloody? I don\\\'t know, I\\\'m no expert in this trope, I agree with what [=XFllo=] has said and she looks to have more expertise with CartharsisFactor than I do (having pointed out it\\\'s primarily a video game trope) but those are my thoughts.

As far as the Cersei example goes, I think the language itself is uncomfortable (\\\"Despite not getting the \\\'\\\'\\\'brutal death many have hoped for\\\'\\\'\\\' a character as evil and rotten as her, \\\'\\\'\\\'seeing Cersei dead and (a little) bloodied is still a satisfying sight that also makes up for what many believed to be an undeserved dignified death\\\'\\\'\\\'.\\\") and because of that, I think it might still be on the FlameBait side. As you and [=XFllo=] have discussed, Cersei isn\\\'t the CompleteMonster Joffrey, Ramsay, and Walder Frey were and I myself think that language is too harsh for her character. Personally, I\\\'m uncomfortable with the notion that it\\\'s satisfying to see any character dead and bloodied up.

Maybe if it were rewritten in a way that wasn\\\'t focusing on how great it was to see Cersei bodily broken and bloody? I don\\\'t know, I\\\'m no expert in this trope, I agree with what [=XFllo=] has said and she looks to have more expertise with CartharsisFactor than I do (having pointed out it\\\'s primarily a video game trope) but those are my thoughts.

As far as the Cersei example goes, I think the language itself is uncomfortable (\\\"Despite not getting the \\\'\\\'\\\'brutal death many have hoped for\\\'\\\'\\\' a character as evil and rotten as her, \\\'\\\'\\\'seeing Cersei dead and (a little) bloodied is still a satisfying sight that also makes up for what many believed to be an undeserved dignified death\\\'\\\'\\\'.\\\") and because of that, I think it might still be on the FlameBait side. As you and XFllo have discussed, Cersei isn\\\'t the CompleteMonster Joffrey, Ramsay, and Walder Frey were and I myself think that language is too harsh for her character. Personally, I\\\'m uncomfortable with the notion that it\\\'s satisfying to see any character dead and bloodied up.

Maybe if it were rewritten in a way that wasn\\\'t focusing on how great it was to see Cersei bodily broken and bloody? I don\\\'t know, I\\\'m no expert in this trope, I agree with what [=XFllo=] has said and she looks to have more expertise with CartharsisFactor than I do (having pointed out it\\\'s primarily a video game trope) but those are my thoughts.