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Why does Lightning and Windy have entries here when they are ALSO in the Ignis folder? Is it to hide that they are villains in this faction? At this point, its pointless to keep them hidden since the majority of fans know they are antagonists. If anything, these tropes should merge with their entries on the Ignis page; they can remain \
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Why does Lightning and Windy have entries here when they are ALSO in the Ignis folder? Is it to hide that they are villains in this faction? At this point, its pointless to keep them hidden since the majority of fans know they are antagonists. If anything, these tropes should merge with their entries on the Ignis page; they can remain spoiler characters but their entries should link to the Ignis page instead. Or the reverse can happen instead: the tropes of Windy and Lightning from the Ignis page merges with the tropes here and their folders links to this page.

Jin Kisaragi should remain a \\\"spoiler\\\" character since his allegiance and circumstances IS such a shocking twist.

What do you guys think?
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While the case has been made its does not fit the trope. Because Fitz literally did not have a choice he was brainwashed and remade into a new image. As for Simmons actions she was dealing with basically an advance NPC. One that did not have an option or choices like Ward. But made as is to fit a narrative. So the trope does not apply. Also Ward never actively helped them. In Season 2 he tried to manipulate Daisy to free him. Escapsed and captued Bakshi as if to help them , then basically stole him back when it was convient for him. He never admited any wrong doing , or apologised so why would the Team treat him any different. No apology, never really helped them, and the one time they thought he was trying to help Kara he used her to kidnap and torture Bobbi. Choices he made versus a version of Ward literally created to fill a role who never made a choice just written by the program to play a part.
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While the case has been made its does not fit the trope. Because Fitz literally did not have a choice he was brainwashed and remade into a new image. As for Simmons actions she was dealing with basically an advance NPC. One that did not have an option or choices like Ward. But made as is to fit a narrative. So the trope does not apply. Also Ward never actively helped them. In Season 2 he tried to manipulate Daisy to free him. Escaped from a prison transport enroute to be punished for actual crimes he commuted. He then captured Bakshi as if to help them , then basically stole him back when it was convenient for him. He never admitted any wrong doing , or apologised so why would the Team treat him any different? No apology, never really helped them, and the one time they thought he was trying to help Kara he used her to kidnap and torture Bobbi. Choices he made versus a version of Ward literally created to fill a role who never made a choice just written by the program to play a part.
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While the case has been made its does not fit the trope. Because Fitz literally did not have a choice he was brainwashed and remade into a new image. As for Simmons actions she was dealing with basically an advance NPC. One that did not have an option or choices like Ward. But made as is to fit a narrative. So the trope does not apply
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While the case has been made its does not fit the trope. Because Fitz literally did not have a choice he was brainwashed and remade into a new image. As for Simmons actions she was dealing with basically an advance NPC. One that did not have an option or choices like Ward. But made as is to fit a narrative. So the trope does not apply. Also Ward never actively helped them. In Season 2 he tried to manipulate Daisy to free him. Escapsed and captued Bakshi as if to help them , then basically stole him back when it was convient for him. He never admited any wrong doing , or apologised so why would the Team treat him any different. No apology, never really helped them, and the one time they thought he was trying to help Kara he used her to kidnap and torture Bobbi. Choices he made versus a version of Ward literally created to fill a role who never made a choice just written by the program to play a part.
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