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Mixed thoughts on this. First, sorry for unilaterally changing so much; I've been coming here as I read the series last year and been increasingly irritated by its state, especially the description, until I just plunged into it over the weekend.
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Mixed thoughts on this. First, sorry for unilaterally changing so much; I\'ve been coming here as I read the series last year and been increasingly irritated by its state, especially the description, until I just plunged into it over the weekend.
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\"The Malazan Empire is yet in its infancy, and it has already seen its first betrayal. Surly, Master of the Claw, has assassinated Emperor Kellanved and his closest companion, Dancer, and taken the throne under the name Laseen, continuing the Empire\'s policy of ruthless expansionism, though she is continually mistrusted. Almost immediately, the new gods of the Shadow Realm, Shadowthrone and Cotillion, launch a plot against her, but stumble into a web of far grander plans among their fellow Ascendants. So begin the Tales of the Malazan Book of the Fallen, a grand tragedy told from the perspectives of dozens of characters across three arcs, each beginning on a distinct continent.

On Genabackis, the decade-long Malazan campaign of conquest is slowly coming to a bloody end, but Laseen\'s paranoia of plots against her leads her to orchestrate the decimation of the Bridgeburners, the most famous military unit in the Empire, sending the armies to the brink of revolt. On the other end of the Empire, the Seven Cities subcontinent is gathering for a religiously mandated uprising known as the Whirlwind, and as the war unfods, it becomes clear that the inexperienced noblewoman Laseen has inexplicably chosen to put down the rebellion is much more than she seemed at first sight, with unknown motivations and an unknown agenda she will stop at nothing to realize. Far away, on the continent of Lether, the six tribes of the Tiste Edur have united after millenia of internal warfare to protect themselves against the Kingdom of Lether, driven to inappeasable expansion by its radical capitalist economic system.

As events progress, these conflicts start interweaving, and throughout it all, rumours of peoples thought extinct or myth returning can be heard, as a broken god driven mad by millenia of torture launches his plan to break free from his chains and deliver vengeance.\"

Would that be okay? The long summary could then go under the RotatingArcs trope (I don\'t think it has enough specificity for the pages of the individual books).

As to the picture, it\'s extremely tough choosing one that expresses as much as possible of the spirit of a work as large as this one. For comparison, Literature/TheSilmarillion has the awakening of the Elves, Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire ice & fire imagery; here, for lack of a single defining event or a non-amateur world map, we\'d have to pick a character. I agree that this picture of Tavore is not the best, especially with its deviations from her description in the books, but Tavore is perhaps the character most representative of the series, though not perfect by any stretch of imagination, and the picture itself is one of the few really high-quality ones out there (though admittedly that applies to the original, too). Rake, however, definitely isn\'t in synch with most of the rest of the books, and it does show on GOTM that it was written seven years before Erikson began with the continuation. So, regardless of the specifics of the picture itself, I don\'t think Rake is the right one to pick. The only alternative to the two I\'ve been able to think of for now is the cover of the Kindle edition of all ten books combined ([[https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Malazan+Book+of+the+Fallen&t=h_&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F4%2F46%2FMalazanBookOfTheFallen.jpg this one]]). That would be have the benefit of mirroring the pages of the individual books, though the scene on the cover is somewhat of an amalgamation. I\'d prefer Tavore, but the cover would be better than the one that was there before.

As to the reorganization/structure issue: the pages of comparable works (LOTR, Silmarillion, ASOIAF, Dune, etc.) have an unearthly amount of tropes, organized into folders or entire separate pages. That, then, is not the direction we want to go in, right? If so, we could thin out the more down-to-detail things on the page, like weapons tropes, along with ones that apply to just a single book, too, and devote this one more to themes, the world, and overarching plotlines. Personally, I\'d like that better.

In this case, we could also use some division of work with the character and individual books\' pages. My preference would be the Seven Cities or Letherii storyline to work on, but I\'m flexible (I also like TTH). However, I haven\'t started ICE\'s books or the Kharkanas trilogy yet, so I\'ll be of little help there. By the way, would it make sense to make a separate page for the Novels of the Malazan Empire series?

I hope I\'ve addressed everything, if not, please point it out! Excited to be working on this.
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Mixed thoughts on this. First, sorry for unilaterally changing so much; I've been coming here as I read the series last year and been increasingly irritated by its state, especially the description, until I just plunged into it over the weekend.
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Mixed thoughts on this. First, sorry for unilaterally changing so much; I\'ve been coming here as I read the series last year and been increasingly irritated by its state, especially the description, until I just plunged into it over the weekend.
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\"The Malazan Empire is yet in its infancy, and it has already seen its first betrayal. Surly, Master of the Claw, has assassinated Emperor Kellanved and his closest companion, Dancer, and taken the throne under the name Laseen, continuing the Empire\'s policy of ruthless expansionism, though she is continually mistrusted. Almost immediately, the new gods of the Shadow Realm, Shadowthrone and Cotillion, launch a plot against her, but stumble into a web of far grander plans among their fellow Ascendants. So begin the Tales of the Malazan Book of the Fallen, a grand tragedy told from the perspectives of dozens of characters across three arcs, each beginning on a distinct continent.

On Genabackis, the decade-long Malazan campaign of conquest is slowly coming to a bloody end, but Laseen\'s paranoia of plots against her leads her to orchestrate the decimation of the Bridgeburners, the most famous military unit in the Empire, sending the armies to the brink of revolt. On the other end of the Empire, the Seven Cities subcontinent is gathering for a religiously mandated uprising known as the Whirlwind, and as the war unfods, it becomes clear that the inexperienced noblewoman Laseen has inexplicably chosen to put down the rebellion is much more than she seemed at first sight, with unknown motivations and an unknown agenda she will stop at nothing to realize. Far away, on the continent of Lether, the six tribes of the Tiste Edur have united after millenia of internal warfare to protect themselves against the Kingdom of Lether, driven to inappeasable expansion by its radical capitalist economic system.

As events progress, these conflicts start interweaving, and throughout it all, rumours of peoples thought extinct or myth returning can be heard, as a broken god driven mad by millenia of torture launches his plan to break free from his chains and deliver vengeance.\"

Would that be okay? The long summary could then go under the RotatingArcs trope (I don\'t think it has enough specificity for the pages of the individual books).

As to the picture, it\'s extremely tough choosing one that expresses as much as possible of the spirit of a work as large as this one. For comparison, Literature/TheSilmarillion has the awakening of the Elves, Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire ice & fire imagery; here, for lack of a single defining event or a non-amateur world map, we\'d have to pick a character. I agree that this picture of Tavore is not the best, especially with its deviations from her description in the books, but Tavore is perhaps the character most representative of the series, though not perfect by any stretch of imagination, and the picture itself is one of the few really high-quality ones out there (though admittedly that applies to the original, too). Rake, however, definitely isn\'t in synch with most of the rest of the books, and it does show on GOTM that it was written seven years before Erikson began with the continuation. So, regardless of the specifics of the picture itself, I don\'t think Rake is the right one to pick. The only alternative to the two I\'ve been able to think of for now is the cover of the Kindle edition of all ten books combined (MalazanBookOfTheFallen.jpg on Wikimedia). That would be have the benefit of mirroring the pages of the individual books, though the scene on the cover is somewhat of an amalgamation. I\'d prefer Tavore, but the cover would be better than the one that was there before.

As to the reorganization/structure issue: the pages of comparable works (LOTR, Silmarillion, ASOIAF, Dune, etc.) have an unearthly amount of tropes, organized into folders or entire separate pages. That, then, is not the direction we want to go in, right? If so, we could thin out the more down-to-detail things on the page, like weapons tropes, along with ones that apply to just a single book, too, and devote this one more to themes, the world, and overarching plotlines. Personally, I\'d like that better.

In this case, we could also use some division of work with the character and individual books\' pages. My preference would be the Seven Cities or Letherii storyline to work on, but I\'m flexible (I also like TTH). However, I haven\'t started ICE\'s books or the Kharkanas trilogy yet, so I\'ll be of little help there. By the way, would it make sense to make a separate page for the Novels of the Malazan Empire series?

I hope I\'ve addressed everything, if not, please point it out! Excited to be working on this.
Changed line(s) 1 from:
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Mixed thoughts on this. First, sorry for unilaterally changing so much; I've been coming here as I read the series last year and been increasingly irritated by its state, especially the description, until I just plunged into it over the weekend.
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Mixed thoughts on this. First, sorry for unilaterally changing so much; I\'ve been coming here as I read the series last year and been increasingly irritated by its state, especially the description, until I just plunged into it over the weekend.
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\"The Malazan Empire is yet in its infancy, and it has already seen its first betrayal. Surly, Master of the Claw, has assassinated Emperor Kellanved and his closest companion, Dancer, and taken the throne under the name Laseen, continuing the Empire\'s policy of ruthless expansionism, though she is continually mistrusted. Almost immediately, the new gods of the Shadow Realm, Shadowthrone and Cotillion, launch a plot against her, but stumble into a web of far grander plans among their fellow Ascendants. So begin the Tales of the Malazan Book of the Fallen, a grand tragedy told from the perspectives of dozens of characters across three arcs, each beginning on a distinct continent.

On Genabackis, the decade-long Malazan campaign of conquest is slowly coming to a bloody end, but Laseen\'s paranoia of plots against her leads her to orchestrate the decimation of the Bridgeburners, the most famous military unit in the Empire, sending the armies to the brink of revolt. On the other end of the Empire, the Seven Cities subcontinent is gathering for a religiously mandated uprising known as the Whirlwind, and as the war unfods, it becomes clear that the inexperienced noblewoman Laseen has inexplicably chosen to put down the rebellion is much more than she seemed at first sight, with unknown motivations and an unknown agenda she will stop at nothing to realize. Far away, on the continent of Lether, the six tribes of the Tiste Edur have united after millenia of internal warfare to protect themselves against the Kingdom of Lether, driven to inappeasable expansion by its radical capitalist economic system.

As events progress, these conflicts start interweaving, and throughout it all, rumours of peoples thought extinct or myth returning can be heard, as a broken god driven mad by millenia of torture launches his plan to break free from his chains and deliver vengeance.\"

Would that be okay? The long summary could then go under the RotatingArcs trope (I don\'t think it has enough specificity for the pages of the individual books).

As to the picture, it\'s extremely tough choosing one that expresses as much as possible of the spirit of a work as large as this one. For comparison, Literature/TheSilmarillion has the awakening of the Elves, Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire ice & fire imagery; here, for lack of a single defining event or a non-amateur world map, we\'d have to pick a character. I agree that this picture of Tavore is not the best, especially with its deviations from her description in the books, but Tavore is perhaps the character most representative of the series, though not perfect by any stretch of imagination, and the picture itself is one of the few really high-quality ones out there (though admittedly that applies to the original, too). Rake, however, definitely isn\'t in synch with most of the rest of the books, and it does show on GOTM that it was written seven years before Erikson began with the continuation. So, regardless of the specifics of the picture itself, I don\'t think Rake is the right one to pick. The only alternative to the two I\'ve been able to think of for now is the cover of the Kindle edition of all ten books combined (this one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/46/MalazanBookOfTheFallen.jpg ). That would be have the benefit of mirroring the pages of the individual books, though the scene on the cover is somewhat of an amalgamation. I\'d prefer Tavore, but the cover would be better than the one that was there before.

As to the reorganization/structure issue: the pages of comparable works (LOTR, Silmarillion, ASOIAF, Dune, etc.) have an unearthly amount of tropes, organized into folders or entire separate pages. That, then, is not the direction we want to go in, right? If so, we could thin out the more down-to-detail things on the page, like weapons tropes, along with ones that apply to just a single book, too, and devote this one more to themes, the world, and overarching plotlines. Personally, I\'d like that better.

In this case, we could also use some division of work with the character and individual books\' pages. My preference would be the Seven Cities or Letherii storyline to work on, but I\'m flexible (I also like TTH). However, I haven\'t started ICE\'s books or the Kharkanas trilogy yet, so I\'ll be of little help there. By the way, would it make sense to make a separate page for the Novels of the Malazan Empire series?

I hope I\'ve addressed everything, if not, please point it out! Excited to be working on this.
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