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I think you're only saying this because you're an atheist who has been personally insulted by what I said and are trying to excuse and justify a DoubleStandard against a group you dislike rather than present an even-handed case, correct me if I'm wrong. It looks like we are cherry-picking as I look back over what we've typed. While I have seized on some things you said more than other things, I try to address the general scope of what you say and will try harder to do so. Looking back at you, it looks likes you have been trying to comb through everything I say, pick the lines most useful to you, put the worst spin on them that you can, treat that as if it's the whole argument and avoid addressing the rest (looks like cherry-picking to me).
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I think you\'re only saying this because you\'re an atheist who has been personally insulted by what I said and are trying to excuse and justify a DoubleStandard against a group you dislike rather than present an even-handed case, correct me if I\'m wrong. It looks like we are cherry-picking as I look back over what we\'ve typed. While I have seized on some things you said more than other things, I try to address the general scope of what you say and will try harder to do so. Looking back at you, it looks likes you have been trying to comb through everything I say, pick the lines most useful to you, put the worst spin on them that you can (aside from the occasional poor choice of wording on my part), treat that as if it\'s the whole argument and avoid addressing the rest (looks like cherry-picking to me).
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Regarding the Judaism section; When I said
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Regarding the Judaism section; When I said \"In closing, I would like to discuss some examples of how Judaism has been portrayed in the media rather than that generic \"the positive portrayals of Judaism can be counted on one hand\" I meant I wanted to list specific examples in that section, not deny the fact that the majority of media depictions of Judaism throughout history have been negative; you misunderstood my intentions (also, what you said you thought I was going for is not how the GoldenMeanFallacy works). My line about \"the most prominent reasons... regarding Judaism\" was only a poor choice of wording on my part. I was not saying that those reasons were justified, I am saying that those are some of the reasons given for the prejudice, I was NOT agreeing with them or trying to insinuate they were valid; it was no more an attempt to malign Jewish people any more than the grievances leveled at Christianity in the Christianity folder are an attempt to malign Christianity. If you did report me, at best it looks like it was a misunderstanding brought on by a poor choice of wording on my part, or at worst a slanderous accusation to try and get me silenced.
I also disagree with your accusation of cherry-picking; the page says \"...the \'\'\'defining\'\'\' criticism of Christianity is hypocrisy...\" I was not cherry-picking, as I wasn\'t trying to ignore the other stereotypes, I was seeking to point out what looked like a shared element (a prominent negative criticism leveled at Judaism and Christianity, though the though the truth is more nuanced than that. Also, from your claim that \"Jews had no role in the death of Jesus,\" I recommend you read the four Gospels and do some historical research. I also never said that Jews had anything to do with Muhammad\'s death, merely that it\'s speculated that a Jewish person killed the Islamic prophet Muhammad (since Muslims and Jews have had quite a bit of historical animosity). Saying that \"some Jewish people were responsible for the death of Jesus\" is not a hate crime, any more than it is to say that \"some terrorists are Muslims\" or \"some Catholic priests have molested children\".
Regarding the atheism section, this article is about AcceptableReligiousTargets. That means it\'s about atheism, not communism, which is why I tried to move it away from communism and towards state atheism (also to avoid slipping into the AssociationFallacy, which is linked in the atheism section); thus do I assert that state atheism is relevant to this article.
On that note, what I would like to add to the Jewish section is, after \"...positive portrayals can be counted on one hand\" I want to add the line \"(one example of a negative portrayal is the Jewish moneylender Shylock in the Shakespeare play \"The Merchant of Venice).\" Also, I would like to mention the New Atheist movement in the atheism section; they have appeared in media and some deplorable statements on the part of its founders have played a role in the negative media portrayal (Richard Dawkins was spoofed in South Park - to use him as an example he\'s called Islam \"the greatest force of evil in the world\" even though he admitted in that same sentence that [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch he\'s never read the Koran]]).
What say you?
I also disagree with your accusation of cherry-picking; the page says \"...the \'\'\'defining\'\'\' criticism of Christianity is hypocrisy...\" I was not cherry-picking, as I wasn\'t trying to ignore the other stereotypes, I was seeking to point out what looked like a shared element (a prominent negative criticism leveled at Judaism and Christianity, though the though the truth is more nuanced than that. Also, from your claim that \"Jews had no role in the death of Jesus,\" I recommend you read the four Gospels and do some historical research. I also never said that Jews had anything to do with Muhammad\'s death, merely that it\'s speculated that a Jewish person killed the Islamic prophet Muhammad (since Muslims and Jews have had quite a bit of historical animosity). Saying that \"some Jewish people were responsible for the death of Jesus\" is not a hate crime, any more than it is to say that \"some terrorists are Muslims\" or \"some Catholic priests have molested children\".
Regarding the atheism section, this article is about AcceptableReligiousTargets. That means it\'s about atheism, not communism, which is why I tried to move it away from communism and towards state atheism (also to avoid slipping into the AssociationFallacy, which is linked in the atheism section); thus do I assert that state atheism is relevant to this article.
On that note, what I would like to add to the Jewish section is, after \"...positive portrayals can be counted on one hand\" I want to add the line \"(one example of a negative portrayal is the Jewish moneylender Shylock in the Shakespeare play \"The Merchant of Venice).\" Also, I would like to mention the New Atheist movement in the atheism section; they have appeared in media and some deplorable statements on the part of its founders have played a role in the negative media portrayal (Richard Dawkins was spoofed in South Park - to use him as an example he\'s called Islam \"the greatest force of evil in the world\" even though he admitted in that same sentence that [[ComplainingAboutShowsYouDontWatch he\'s never read the Koran]]).
What say you?
