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* The replicants in \'\'Film/BladeRunner\'\' are treated as slaves because they aren\'t quite up there in terms of human emotional capability. However, they are more akin to clones than robots, so there is never a question of \"if\" they are sentient so much as \"when\". They are designed with an incredibly short lifespan to prevent them from becoming too human through observation. Essentially, they are made to die young to avoid them becoming smart or organized enough to stage a new rebellion to gain equal rights to humans. The Fantastic Aesop comes in because they are, for all practical purposes \'\'human\'\', or at least human enough to fool others \'\'and\'\' fall victim to a TomatoInTheMirror. \"More human than human\", as the Tyrell Corporation put it. It crosses into Failed Metaphor as well, since Replicants have enhanced strength, speed and toughness.

I\'m not even 100% sure what it\'s trying to say exactly, but isn\'t it perfectly clear the replicants are discriminated against because they\'re seen as different and \"not like us\"? And the humans are motivated to think this way because they want to use them, not treat them like equals? It would be more of a failed aesop if they really were so different as to somehow warrant discrimination; the fact that they\'re human goes perfectly with showing how such discrimination in the real world is arbitrary. In spite of that word appearing there, it especially isn\'t an example of arbitrary rules, ie. \"Now the Aesop makes sense within the fictional universe, but makes no sense as a metaphor at all.\"

* The replicants in \'\'Film/BladeRunner\'\' are treated as slaves because they aren\'t quite up there in terms of human emotional capability. However, they are more akin to clones than robots, so there is never a question of \"if\" they are sentient so much as \"when\". They are designed with an incredibly short lifespan to prevent them from becoming too human through observation. Essentially, they are made to die young to avoid them becoming smart or organized enough to stage a new rebellion to gain equal rights to humans. The Fantastic Aesop comes in because they are, for all practical purposes \'\'human\'\', or at least human enough to fool others \'\'and\'\' fall victim to a TomatoInTheMirror. \"More human than human\", as the Tyrell Corporation put it. It crosses into Failed Metaphor as well, since Replicants have enhanced strength, speed and toughness.

I\'m not even 100% sure what it\'s trying to say exactly, but isn\'t it perfectly clear the replicants are discriminated against because they\'re seen as different and \"not like us\"? And the humans are motivated to think this way because they want to use them? It would be more of a failed aesop if they really were so different as to somehow warrant discrimination; the fact that they\'re human goes perfectly with showing how such discrimination in the real world is arbitrary. In spite of that word appearing there, it especially isn\'t an example of arbitrary rules, ie. \"Now the Aesop makes sense within the fictional universe, but makes no sense as a metaphor at all.\"

* The replicants in \'\'Film/BladeRunner\'\' are treated as slaves because they aren\'t quite up there in terms of human emotional capability. However, they are more akin to clones than robots, so there is never a question of \"if\" they are sentient so much as \"when\". They are designed with an incredibly short lifespan to prevent them from becoming too human through observation. Essentially, they are made to die young to avoid them becoming smart or organized enough to stage a new rebellion to gain equal rights to humans. The Fantastic Aesop comes in because they are, for all practical purposes \'\'human\'\', or at least human enough to fool others \'\'and\'\' fall victim to a TomatoInTheMirror. \"More human than human\", as the Tyrell Corporation put it. It crosses into Failed Metaphor as well, since Replicants have enhanced strength, speed and toughness.

I\'m not even 100% sure what it\'s trying to say exactly, but isn\'t it perfectly clear the replicants are discriminated against because they\'re seen as different and \"not like us\"? It would be more of a failed aesop if they really were so different as to somehow warrant discrimination; the fact that they\'re human goes perfectly with showing how such discrimination in the real world is arbitrary. In spite of that word appearing there, it especially isn\'t an example of arbitrary rules, ie. \"Now the Aesop makes sense within the fictional universe, but makes no sense as a metaphor at all.\"