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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \\\"violence is wrong, regardless of context and situations.\\\" Hence, it\\\'s still broken.

Now I feel like this is going nowhere, since we are only just talking past each other now and it\\\'s making this whole topic chain drag out far too long than it should. I guess at this point, I shouldn\\\'t care if Broken Aesop is set up on the page or not.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \\\"violence is wrong, regardless of context and situations.\\\" Hence, it\\\'s still broken.

Now I feel like this is going nowhere, since we are only just talking past each other now and it\\\'s making this whole topic chain drag out far too long than it should. I guess at this point, I shouldn\\\'t care if Broken Aesop is set up on the page or not, but I still consider it broken for reasons already given.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \\\"violence is wrong, regardless of context and situations.\\\" Hence, it\\\'s still broken.

Now I feel like this is going nowhere, since we are only just talking past each other now and it\\\'s making this whole topic chain drag out far too long than it should. I guess at this point, I shouldn\\\'t really be bothered if Broken Aesop is set up on the page or not, but I still consider it broken for reasons already given.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \
to:
Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \\\"violence is wrong, regardless of context and situations.\\\" Hence, it\\\'s still broken.

Now I feel like this is going nowhere, since we are only just talking past each other now and it\\\'s making this whole topic chain drag out far too long than it should.
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n
Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways to can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, let alone what the game wants you to do and again, I still find the game\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \
to:
Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \\\"violence is wrong, regardless of context and situations.\\\" Hence, it\\\'s still broken.
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n
Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways to can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, let alone what the game wants you to do and again, I still find the game\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \
to:
Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put up with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways to can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, let alone what the game wants you to do and again, I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \\\"violence is wrong, regardless of context and situations.\\\" Hence, it\\\'s still broken.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways to can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, let alone what the game wants you to do and again, I still find the game\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\'ve explained.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways to can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, let alone what the game wants you to do and again, I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained and again going back to it depicting the monsters using violence on you in the No Mercy route is depicted as heroic even though, again, the aesop is \\\"violence is wrong, regardless of context and situations.\\\" Hence, it\\\'s still broken.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways that can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, and the game\'s aesop is executed in such a ridiculous way that it wouldn\'t make sense, even for a pacifist story.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways to can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, let alone what the game wants you to do and again, I still find the game\\\'s aesop poorly executed for the reasons that I\\\'ve explained.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors no aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways that can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, and the game\'s aesop is executed in such a ridiculous way that it wouldn\'t make sense, even for a pacifist story.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors not aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways that can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, and the game\\\'s aesop is executed in such a ridiculous way that it wouldn\\\'t make sense, even for a pacifist story.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\'re not obligated to make your aggressors no aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you. There are ways that can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, and the game\'s aesop is executed in such a ridiculous way that it wouldn\'t make sense, even for a pacifist story.
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Except the game still judges you even if you do just protect yourself and kill in self-defense, telling you that you should\\\'ve done better, and my stance is No to that. And like I said, you\\\'re not obligated to make your aggressors no aggressive anymore when that falls on them, not on you, and I don\\\'t think that there should be a moral where you have to be obligated to put with the bullshit of those who want to harm you. There are ways that can break cycles without being a pacifist in story-telling, and the game\\\'s aesop is executed in such a ridiculous way that it wouldn\\\'t make sense, even for a pacifist story.
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