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Mainly because victims of aggression are not obligated to put up with the aggressor\'s behavior, and are not obligated to be their friends or show them the \
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Mainly because victims of aggression are not obligated to put up with the aggressor\\\'s behavior, and are not obligated to be their friends or show them the \\\"right\\\" way, which the game says that you have to put up with them in order to get the True Ending. Believe it or not, real life pacifism doesn\\\'t require you to become friends with your enemies. I\\\'m sure that some schools of thought on would advocate that, but generally making friends with your enemy isn\\\'t something that is advocated in all pacifism in general.

Also, only Toriel and some monsters in the ruins were teaching you about non-violence. Sans only made suggestions of you being nice to Papyrus, and even then I say that he underestimated how much his brother was willing to go to become famous since you still fight Papyrus in a boss battle anyway. Other than that, I don\\\'t think anyone else in the game after the ruins section were teaching you anything about the lesson.
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Mainly because victims of aggression are not obligated to put up with the aggressor\'s behavior, and are not obligated to be their friends or show them the \
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Mainly because victims of aggression are not obligated to put up with the aggressor\\\'s behavior, and are not obligated to be their friends or show them the \\\"right\\\" way, which the game says that you have to put up with them in order to get the True Ending. Believe it or not, real life pacifism doesn\\\'t require you to become friends with your enemies. I\\\'m sure that some schools of thought on would advocate that, but generally making friends with your enemy isn\\\'t something that is advocated in all pacifism in general.

Also, only Toriel was teaching you about non-violence. Sans only made suggestions of you being nice to Papyrus, and even then I say that he underestimated how much his brother was willing to go to become famous since you still fight Papyrus in a boss battle anyway. Other than that, I don\\\'t think anyone else in the game was teaching you anything about the lesson.
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Mainly because victims of aggression are not obligated to put up with the aggressor\'s behavior, and are not obligated to be their friends or show them the \
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Mainly because victims of aggression are not obligated to put up with the aggressor\\\'s behavior, and are not obligated to be their friends or show them the \\\"right\\\" way, which the game says that you have to put up with them in order to get the True Ending. Believe it or not, real life pacifism doesn\\\'t require you to become friends with your enemies. I\\\'m sure that some schools of thought on would advocate that, but generally making friends with your enemy isn\\\'t something is advocated in all pacifism in general.

Also, only Toriel was teaching you about non-violence. Sans only made suggestions of you being nice to Papyrus, and even then I say that he underestimated how much his brother was willing to go to become famous since you still fight Papyrus in a boss battle anyway. Other than that, I don\\\'t think anyone else in the game was teaching you anything about the lesson.
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