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openEdit problems
The user bOeNs has made some problematic edits, at least on the pages for Billie Bust Up!. Here's a quick summary of what happened:
- On the character page, they added an entry for The Wall Around the World where they wrote "Goatshire" as the name (this edit). Then, in this edit, I corrected that to "Pygmyshire" because the developers recently confirmed this as the official name (although I didn't link this, as I didn't deem it necessary at the time). Then, the user simply reverted it back to "Goatshire" without messaging me or starting a discussion — this is an edit war.
- On both the main and character pages, they have added natter in the form of commentary alongside a few of their edits. One edit that I'd just found after removing a comment on the main article literally goes "(If anyone knows why Barnaby is the fan favorite, please do not hesitate to edit this.)", complete with the parenthesis, and that was after I'd removed another piece of natter they'd added. I forgot to send them a natter notifier then, but after the most recent removal of a comment I sent them one.
- They added Love to Hate to Barnaby's folder, which not only had natter but also turned out to be YMMV (ergo, not belonging on the page because it's not a trope). I didn't realize it was YMMV at first until I read the entry and then thought to look at the "trope".
openAdding Images
If a page (be it, a trope page, work page, or sub page) does not already have an image, are you free to just add a new image to it, or do you need permission first?
open(Danganronpa SPOILERS) Is this a misuse of DoomedByCanon?
This folder is from the prequel work's character page.
- Prequel: Danganronpa 3: The End of Hope's Peak High School: Despair Arc
- Present: Danganronpa: Trigger Happy Havoc
I changed Doomed by Canon to Saved by Canon (the following character got killed in Trigger Happy Havoc, not the prequel anime), but then another troper re-added Doomed By Canon.
Mukuro Ikusaba
- Doomed by Canon: Junko kills her in Chapter 1 of Trigger Happy Havoc while she's masquerading as Junko herself.
- Saved by Canon: Since she's one of participants of the second killing game (while disguising as Junko), this is a given.
openThomas and the Magic Railroad in the wrong namespace (?) Film
Currently, Thomas and the Magic Railroad resides in the Western Animation namespace like the original show. However, I question this. While it makes sense for the original show and the other films to be in the namespace, since they either use claymation/Supermarionation for the early stuff or CGI for the later stuff, Thomas and the Magic Railroad is a unique case as it features real humans in real settings for major chunks of the film, so I wonder if the "film" namespace is better suited for it.
I mean, if Who Framed Roger Rabbit, a film that is more animated than Magic Railroad is in the film namespace for having real humans and stuff, than Magic Railroad probably fits there too. What do you think?
Edited by Tylerbear12openDeadlink example
While looking at the "I Want Grandkids" trope and finishing the job of sorting the "Fan works" examples by parent series, I found one example was for a fic that has since been deleted from fanfiction dot net:
- Six Paths of Rebellion: A variant — Nunnally is quite insistent on Lelouch getting a girlfriend and giving her lots of nieces and nephews to spoil.
I've commented it out for now. However, I searched and found that a copy of the fic is being archived on "Archive Of Our Own" by a third party. Since it's nowhere near the chapter being linked to, should I just delete the example, or replace the link with the AO 3 one and remove the commented-out status (either now or when they get that far)?
Until next time...
Anon e Mouse Jr.
openBeginner Crosswicking
I want to put the link to the trope Kiai on the Quotes page of Mook Chivalry, since i sincerely think it fits. However, I can't get it to work properly, and I've looked all over TV Tropes to find out how to do it, but to no avail. It's probably just an indenting or formatting issue. How do I Wick?
openA Recap for... tropes?
By accident, I found out that there's a Recap.Tropes page...
Except it's actually about a series of TikTok shorts called "Nike and Jake"?
What? Was this some kind of error?
openWhat do we do with a Fridge entry that gets a canonical resolution? Literature
Seen examples for both Reign of the Seven Spellblades and Trapped in a Dating Sim: The World of Otome Games is Tough for Mobs, respectively Fridge Logic and Fridge Horror, where there's a preexisting entry on a Fridge page that then got explained away in a later volume.
Should these be deleted with an edit reason to that effect, or treated like WMG where we note there's now a canonical resolution?
Edited by StarSwordopenCommon Edit Reasons
Do we have a place to suggest new checkboxes for the edit page? I often think it needs one for Examples Are Not Recent.
openCharacter page discouraging commenting out of ZCEs? Web Original
I've been commenting out ZCEs Characters.Whateley Universe Whateley Academy as per the policy, but only recently did I notice this commented-out note:
"Yes. there are a lot of Zero-Context Examples. Try and fill them. Commenting them out makes them harder to notice? The Crystalhall.wikia.com page for each character should give info on where to find quotations or whatever, to fill them in..."
Is this okay? Should I continue commenting them out despite this notice?
Edited by TroperNo9001openErrorverse Web Original
Okay, out of morbid curiosity, I need more details about what happened with the Errorverse page. The reason for its being cut — "Non-existent work. Only editor for the pages (who is likely one of the coauthors or a proxy for them) deleted their account when confronted." — implies that there was a bit of a brouhaha about it.
open Anyone know this song/poem? Music
I just stumbled across the Pumpkin Person trope, and it reminded me of a song/poem I heard when I was in grade school back in Australia in the tail end of the 90s. But all I can remember are a few lyric fragments; "When the jack-o-lanterns go, marching softly to and fro", and "Oh-oh-oh-oh here we creep! When the world is fast asleep!" "Marching off (out?) - to frighten you!" Obviously, it's a bit of a long shot, but I thought I'd throw this query out and see if anybody else could remember it.
I think it was part of a book that included a poem/song called Jingle-Jangle-Jent, which I remember mentioned a "druid fond of fluid" and a "Roman fond of roaming", but I don't really remember anything more than that...
openApparent trope missing on the "no examples" lists
The page Wiki Vandal is listed as being a trope. It has no examples, but isn't listed as No On-Page Examples or Definition-Only Pages. Would the correct course of action be to add it to one of those pages? Or is it incorrect that it's labeled as a trope at all?
openPotentially suspect edits Videogame
Troper Halberd Stop Crashing has made some edits that are rather concerning:
On Characters.Trails Series Calvard Arkride Solutions Office they added an Ambiguously Bi entry, which is valid but has a concerning part (bolded)
- Ambiguously Bi: He expresses more overt attraction to Agnès, which the remainder of the party notices and comments upon. He blushes when grabbed by Van, which may have an alternative explanation. He also gets flustered and comments on how built Van's body is, before 'asking him to forget [he] said anything.'anything,' among other things.
Being intersex doesn't mean that they feel attraction to anyone (same sex or opposite sex), that's what things like bi or pan are for. It means that they have different parts than a regular person.
Then on here, they make frequent references to eroticism with one reference to homoerotism; I removed it because a scene having gay subtext or gay regular text doesn't make it sexual and by definition homoerotism is about sexual desire with the same sex.
I could be wrong on these so I want to bring it up here is these are worth examining closer.
openTroper keeps creating trope-less character folders
Back in the day I sent Billy Boric a number of stub notifiers due to them adding trope-less "character" (playable country) folders in various subpages of Characters.Extremis Ultimis. They've replied to one of those notifiers with, basically, "I'm adding the stubs so people will complete the work for me". I've also fixed that problem a couple times by commenting out the folders that lack any tropes. Today they added a lot of those stub folders to Extremis Ultimis Middle East.
openHow do I change the page sandbox to webvideo, and the title for Fundamental Paper Education?
Hi, I'm new to editing, in this page for Fundamental Paper Education https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Sandbox/SandStuff someone made some mistakes when editing.
First of all, it is a web series on You Tube, so it should be on a page for webvideo, not sandbox. How do I change that?
Second, how do I change the title of the page to the correct one? Because it is not called Sand Stuff, the correct one is Fundamental Paper Education.
openEdit War?
On YMMV.Dead Boy Detectives 2024 the following happened:
- Shanwooo 444 added a second bullet where the phrase "This gets particularly bad in the final episode".
- I merged into the previous one because I felt like it didn't need to be to entries. However, in the process I removed the "This gets particularly bad" part because it just made the entry more negative.
- Shanwooo 444 adds back the "This gets particularly bad" phrase. Without discussing it anywhere or edit reason.
Is this an edit war? I should note that this is not the first time Shanwooo 444 have restored their previous addition to the Dead Boy Detectives page. They did so previously for the same trope and was sent a warning by a mod.
Edited by BullmanopenExample Indentation problem in YMMv page
I found two examples in YMMV page for The Gifted (2014) where two example indentation is probably used wrongly.
- Alternate Character Interpretation:
- The Stinger regarding the nature of The Gifted novel in the end portrays Marco in in a negative light. The novel portrays the unhealthy rivalry of Aica and Zoe who are actually based on in-universe real life people. In the reveal, the audience learns that the two novel characters are based on two of Marco's former classmates, Maica and Joey who are actually Fire-Forged Friends and are not okay with Marco's portrayal of their fictional counterparts in their books and mugged him in the end for it. They basically claim that the novel is an actual product of Marco's insecurities and envy of the two's academic aptitude and the embarassing incident of Aica's soiling herself and Zoe's revenge on their theology teacher was actually Marco's experience.
- Alternatively Maica's and Zoe's view on Marco's reputation as a friendless outcast maybe an exaggeration as well. Nevertheless the epilogue's possible Aesop against excessive escapism still stands.
- The Stinger regarding the nature of The Gifted novel in the end portrays Marco in in a negative light. The novel portrays the unhealthy rivalry of Aica and Zoe who are actually based on in-universe real life people. In the reveal, the audience learns that the two novel characters are based on two of Marco's former classmates, Maica and Joey who are actually Fire-Forged Friends and are not okay with Marco's portrayal of their fictional counterparts in their books and mugged him in the end for it. They basically claim that the novel is an actual product of Marco's insecurities and envy of the two's academic aptitude and the embarassing incident of Aica's soiling herself and Zoe's revenge on their theology teacher was actually Marco's experience.
- Broken Aesop
- Films and television series who features conventionally unattractive leads often implies a premise that Appearance Is in the Eye of the Beholder. However like in most films, the leads underwent cosmetic surgery. This was subverted in the ending where it was revealed that the events of the film is a loose adaptation of real events by The Gifted author Marco. Maica and Joey criticized Marco's book for making their fictional counterparts undergo surgery and insists they are contented with their appearances. They chastised the book as a escapist Fanservice meant to cater to men.
- However films such as The Gifted also heavily relies to the female demographic with Sam Milby as its male lead. Depending on your point of view the feminist message in the epilogue might not hold water..
- Films and television series who features conventionally unattractive leads often implies a premise that Appearance Is in the Eye of the Beholder. However like in most films, the leads underwent cosmetic surgery. This was subverted in the ending where it was revealed that the events of the film is a loose adaptation of real events by The Gifted author Marco. Maica and Joey criticized Marco's book for making their fictional counterparts undergo surgery and insists they are contented with their appearances. They chastised the book as a escapist Fanservice meant to cater to men.
How do I fix it?
openShould we list former GameBreaker examples? Videogame
Should we list former examples that, due to nerf/buffs, are no longer the case?
Former Low-Tier Letdown examples can be listed under Rescued from the Scrappy Heap, but I don't know the equivalent for Game-Breaker (intentional or not).
Clarifying EDIT: I asked this because 2.5 months ago, someone added a game-breaking bug to Team Fortress 2 that was patched in 2008.
Edited by Exaskliri
In this review, Boondocks 96 has been making angry comments attacking others and refusing to stop when told it isn't helpful.