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If you just want to cut a page, you can submit it to the Cut List here. You don't need to post in this thread for that.

As mentioned on the Cut List page itself, cutting is generally seen as a last resort. If it's a Work page for a valid work, we may ask if there have been other attempts to save it. If it's a subpage, we may want to confirm that examples are being moved, not lost entirely.

Cut requests that don't have a reason will be declined.


Posts here may cover the following topics:
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  • Queries about next steps for pages where a cut request was declined (e.g. due to very high inbounds).
  • General Cut List policy questions.

You can see a list of recently cut articles here.

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 19th 2024 at 11:17:57 AM

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#26: Oct 5th 2023 at 10:10:04 AM

They were mostly recap pages. Cut list is cleared.

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#27: Oct 8th 2023 at 12:37:31 PM

~Arctimon Cut list request for Spyro: Bridge Across Worlds declined; reason: Misuse of the Recap/ namespace; it's not for summarizing the entire story.

That's one of the uses for Recap/. See e.g. Spider-Man: Homecoming, Doom (2016)

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#28: Oct 8th 2023 at 1:59:18 PM

Am I stupid or something, or do I just not understand the Recap/ namespace?

Why are entire summaries of movies and TV episodes and fanfictions allowed for recaps? Wasn't it discussed before that these giant summaries that you have to scroll through were not allowed? I distinctly remember a few ATT queries about Amphibia's recap pages literally going through every detail in the episode and those were either deleted or severely shortened.

I know this probably isn't the right place for this discussion, but I'm genuinely confused about it now. Is there a Administrivia page or something that I can go read so that I can get some clarification?

(For the record, I'm not mad at the cut request being denied. I'm more mad because I feel like I go through a Recap/ problem every few months or so and I don't get a straight answer.)

Edited by Arctimon on Oct 8th 2023 at 5:01:14 AM

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#29: Oct 8th 2023 at 2:05:32 PM

Was it? I believe it was only broadly agreed that every paragraph/minute of footage/etc. should not be exhaustively documented for Wall of Text reasons. When the old Synopsis namespace was folded into Recap, Recap became the place for plot summaries as well as per-episode troping.

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#30: Oct 8th 2023 at 2:39:28 PM

We do have a thread to discuss Recap pages here, but yes at the moment they do allow plot synopses.

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#31: Oct 8th 2023 at 4:34:44 PM

[up][up]Maybe it's just my personal understanding of it, because the two Recap/ pages you linked (for Doom and SM: Homecoming) to me are still way too long. The fact that they're movies may be messing with my thinking of it, though.

[up]Yeah, I may have to go into that thread in the future, in case I come across anything that I think is too long.

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#32: Oct 18th 2023 at 2:15:18 AM

Why was my request for Characters.Getsuyoubi No Tawawa declined despite only having 4,252 inbounds? Also I'm just kinda following per the English Localization policy.

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#33: Oct 18th 2023 at 3:38:00 AM

Probably because 4252 is a lot for a 2021 page.

Also I don't recall cutting Japanese redirects being a part of English Localization policy (we also kinda don't even have this policy written down IIRC).

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#34: Oct 18th 2023 at 3:40:04 AM

[up] if I remember correctly, the work's subpages and example pages (like Characters/) usually just get their redirects cut if it's not the localized version. The main work page keeps a redirect.

I might be wrong though.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Oct 18th 2023 at 10:40:47 AM

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#35: Oct 19th 2023 at 12:05:13 AM

Yeah, that's too many inbounds and English localization does not apply to redirects.

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#36: Oct 19th 2023 at 10:39:18 AM

Edited by Bullman on Oct 19th 2023 at 12:45:41 PM

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#37: Oct 19th 2023 at 9:34:38 PM

Ok, so the bug on AlternateHistory.com seems to have been fixed now, so I guess you can just decline/ignore that one.

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#38: Oct 21st 2023 at 4:57:47 PM

Noting this query to decline page merges.

Edited by Amonimus on Oct 21st 2023 at 2:57:55 PM

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#39: Oct 21st 2023 at 5:41:27 PM

[up] I set the requests to challenged.

Edited by Twiddler on Oct 21st 2023 at 5:41:44 AM

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#40: Oct 23rd 2023 at 9:13:18 PM

[up] Umm...the Hazbin cut requests went through oddly enough.

Say hello to several hundreds of red links for Hazbin Hotel. Jesus Christ.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Oct 23rd 2023 at 4:23:56 PM

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#42: Oct 23rd 2023 at 9:31:03 PM

[up] Exactly. We don't even know if the pilot is canon or not, just that the show won't remake it.

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#43: Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:10:47 PM

Restored them.

ETA: Apparently this was an error caused by the "challenged" flag going unnoticed because of the way it's displayed for mods making it not stand out much visually.

Edited by Twiddler on Oct 23rd 2023 at 10:53:49 AM

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#46: Oct 25th 2023 at 3:01:46 AM

Please the decline the cut for Literature.I Like Monkeys, which I accidentally added. Please only cut WebOriginal.I Like Monkeys.

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#48: Oct 25th 2023 at 3:24:41 PM

Please put a temporary challenge/decline for Sandbox.Anything That Moves, in the case that someone else adds that while encountering the page, because I'm still sorting out those on-page examples.

Once I have moved them all, then it can be cutlisted.

Edited by AudioSpeaks2 on Oct 25th 2023 at 6:25:17 PM

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#49: Oct 26th 2023 at 6:31:08 AM

Edit: Nevermind.

Edited by costanton11 on Oct 26th 2023 at 8:31:32 AM

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#50: Oct 27th 2023 at 10:33:57 AM

~holofan55, I have put the cutlist requests for the Hololive sandboxes under Challenged, as sometimes we need to sandbox existing pages for cleanup purposes. Please consult the VTubers cleanup thread to see if the sandboxes are still needed.

Edited by Berrenta on Oct 27th 2023 at 12:34:06 PM

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