Eli Roth knew this was something associated with his name for a long time that certain fans really had high expectations for, so he likely tried much harder for that reason.
Only movie I've seen of his is The House with a Clock in Its Walls by the way, which my friend and I also saw in October 2018 the same night as Venom funny enough.
Not many Thanksgiving movies exist, so one that genre bends is also very unique.
Edited by futuremoviewriter on Nov 16th 2023 at 7:56:37 AM
I mean, he didn't write that movie.
And he co-wrote this one. So it's kind of difficult to say how much is just because he tried really hard. Sometimes the elements of a work just come together very well, and sometimes they don't.
Movies are a lot bigger than any one person's input, even when that person is the director.
I mean you look at Pixels and while Chris Columbus directed it, I doubt he had much input in how it turned out.
Thanksgiving again with both the high concept and original idea has a lot that's gonna help it.
Oh yeah. Gonna strongly everyone see this within the next week. While it’s in season.
Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Nov 17th 2023 at 5:33:15 AM
The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.Clearly have young, up and coming stars like Milo Manheim and Addison Rae—20 year olds playing teens as usual—to bring its appeal up as well.
So what are your guys' thoughts on this movie? Is it worth it? Because I won't buy the movie until it's on stream because of what happened with Scream 7 recently.
“Boom! Boomboom! Boomboomboom! Bakuage Tire! Gogogo!"Want to see it. Probably gonna wait until Netflix now though so that Spyglass won't get my money. Mad at them until they solve that whole debacle the right way.
Yeah, I agree with you. Spyglass handle it poorly. Melissa didn't deserve this.
Edited by Bubblepig on Nov 23rd 2023 at 10:54:49 AM
“Boom! Boomboom! Boomboomboom! Bakuage Tire! Gogogo!"It's the closest modern, big-budget equivalent to a classic slasher I've ever seen in this time period. Other examples were too arch and too knowing. The tone of this was perfectly calculated. It's competent in every way it needs to be, and great in a few other ways.
Unfortunately, I won't be buying it either physically or digitally, because fuck Spyglass Media Group.
Or if my friend and I go to see it, he buys my ticket and I buy his another time too. That way I see it, but didn't spend my own cash. Again, brilliant concept that it be a Thanksgiving-themed slasher.
I saw it last night. I didn't care for it that much. It felt... kinda boring to be honest.
Namely, it didn't feel like it was a horror comedy? It felt like it took itself too seriously without utterly dumb and insane the content actually was? Something was... missing in a lot of ways and I can't quite put my finger on it besides "tone problem".
It doesn't feel like it's having fun with the stupidity? And a lot of things felt like... for lack of a better term, ridiculous and absurd for the sake of it without an actual joke? The only joke it the dumb "gimmick".
Like, a waitress shows off the John Carver mask early on and is all "What kid wouldn't wear that?!". Obviously, this is insane and stupid; no kid would want to wear that creepy ass shit. But... there's no beat for the joke? No character reacting to it? It's played seriously. So it feels... off?
I thought about "Ok, if I'm a horror director. I need to shoot this as seriously as possible." and this basically is how I'd shoot it for a serious horror movie, ignoring the absurdity of the kills. This didn't feel like how I'd shoot, say, a horror-comedy or a "so-bad-it's-good" horror movie; something that's intentionally trying to be bad. This especially stuck out to me with the lengthy sequence of the step-mom getting prepared for roasting as the turkey dinner and her escape attempt. Like, that's so over the top! It's dumb! This should be funny. And... instead it was played straight and I was kinda uncomfortable by the end. The film maybe takes a little too much glee in it's female characters screaming and begging?
The script is dumb; Dumb-dumb, which is obviously the point. But the directing, acting, and framing is playing everything straight like an actual horror movie. So I felt... idk. Kinda bored?
I kinda checked out a lot because I knew where the film and the kills were going so it wasn't particularly interesting. And without actual 'jokes' to keep the momentum going, it's tonally tense.
The movie only felt really fun towards the end when the killer is unmasked and they start throwing around cheesy Thanksgiving based one-liners like "There'll be no leftovers this year!" which was genuinely funny. I actually got a laugh there. It actually felt like the movie was trying to be "fun" instead of kinda gross.
You're supposed just be shocked or find the over-the-top kills entertaining or funny in a dark way. That's probably what they're going for.
I got that that's what they were going for. It just... wasn't landing for me. There's a beat missing.
At least some of these kills weren't that much more over the top or stupid than horror movies actually attempting to be legitimate slashers.
It felt to me like one of those... if your parody is indistinguishable from it's parodying, then it's not a good parody? There's a better phrasing for that feeling out there but I can't recall what it was.
Not really intended to be parody. It's schlock. It's done for either shock value or just because it's so ridiculous, it's mesmerizing.
I feel like your mistake was expecting a parody, when it really isn't. It's just a straight-up, straightforward slasher. Yeah, the source material is a tasteless spoof, but those involved were clearly smart enough to recognize that can't sustain a feature and still nod towards slasher tradition.
Yeah, it's self-aware but not actually an outright parody or satire of slashers. It's quite a hard balance to strike and mileage probably does vary as to the success but I don't think judging it as a parody is going to work.
"These 'no-nonsense' solutions of yours just don't hold water in a complex world of jet-powered apes and time travel."Those who know that its basically gonna be a slasher movie taking place at Thanksgiving with the slasher being Thanksgiving-themed and the kills being Thanksgiving-themed sound like they know what they're getting into.
So much for no leftovers!
You think anyone will come back after the producers messed up with Scream?
The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.Yes.
Rick Hoffman has collaborated with Roth for years, so he's a cert to return. As for the rest, I don't use Instagram, but anyone who does should peek at who Roth follows mutually among those who played surviving characters.
We'll see if the backlash continues into the sequel or not. This one's lucky that the backlash came late enough that it didn't hurt it apparently.
Oh yes. Loved every second of this movie. and he left the door open for a sequel too!
There is a post credits scene but nothing consequential. Just an outtake.
Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Nov 16th 2023 at 9:10:21 AM
The Owl House and Coyote Vs Acme are my Roman Empire.