Rebel Moon

Looks like it's gonna be quite a feast. A real pity it'll only have a limited theatrical run (US only I presume).

Edited by Iridener on Aug 22nd 2023 at 12:25:37 PM

At 1:57 A wild MACHAMP appeared!

Looks like a very odd Science Fantasy-type movie.

OK,what's it about?

I think some princess-in-hiding from an evil empire trying to overthrow them because they destroyed her home?

Spectacle.

It's rare to see that there will be a two-part film that is an original story, not an adaptation. I'm looking forward to seeing it.

Edited by Bubblepig on Aug 23rd 2023 at 10:42:53 AM

Looks cool. I get mix of Rogue One and the New Hope vibes.

It's pretty much guaranteed that it's based off that pitch Snyder gave Lucasfilm for a new Star Wars trilogy a while ago (I think pre-JJ Abrams) that they immediately rejected because it didn't match their plans at all.

~Bubblepig, Tis now a Trilogy

Edited by The10thGeek on Aug 24th 2023 at 4:20:01 PM

... Lucasfilm had plans?

Actually I think it had more to do with not using estabilished character and Spyder wanting R rating. It will be fun to see how it translates as Independent project.

Yeah, the Clone Wars TV show was running at the time, and it sounds like Snyder's pitch had a lot of "yes, it's totally in canon, but we're going to throw out everything that doesn't fit what I want to do" mixed in and it didn't fit properly even with the previous movies.

Lucasfilm wanted someone who wouldn't just bend everything into a pretzel to fit their concept, but Snyder isn't really the type to look at the older movies and go "I'll continue doing that."

That too.

Edited by Zendervai on Aug 24th 2023 at 11:57:31 AM

The Star Wars influence is obvious with glowing bladed weapons and farmers in the middle of nowhere, but the tone is a lot more like the recent Dune films with the more aristocratic trappings, ritual behavior and repeated iconography. Snyder said it was rejected for being too big in scope and not directly tying in to the established films and characters. I'm not sure if the pitch was pre or post Disney buyout though.

I agree though it is interesting for being an original story given the multipack treatment.

So, despite getting near complete freedom for it, this movie is STILL getting it's own Snyder Cut.

Okay, I genuinely tried to give the benefit of the doubt here and his reasoning seems to boil down to "well, it's something that I do."

“The [Rebel Moon] director’s cut is close to an hour of extra content, so I think it’s a legitimate extended universe version,” he said. “You really get to see a lot. It’s just more painted-in all the way. The director’s [cut] is a settle-in deep dive, which I have notoriously done throughout my career. I don’t know how I got into this director’s cut thing, but what I will say about it is that, for me, the director’s cuts have always been something I had to fight for in the past and nobody wanted it. It was this bastard child that I was always trying to put together because they felt like there was a deeper version. And with Netflix, we shot scenes just for the director’s cut. So in that way, it’s really a revelation because it gives that second kick at the can for big fans, like a real discovery that they would not [otherwise] get. I’m really excited about it!”

But... you could've just had this in the movie. It's a movie designed for a streaming service where you have creative freedom. I feel like this means that the main version is just... one that he's intentionally making worse? I'm honestly confused here.

Honestly, it's something that is only really possible with a streaming service as theater schedules and runtimes don't matter. Bare minimum it's an interesting thought experiment to have multiple edits available at once, an exaggeration of the Clue multiple endings and the Lord of the Ring special editions.

Related there are reports of Spider Man Across The Spiderverse having radically different animation on different home releases. That is something I'm not sure about, as it is the worst of a George Lucas Altered Version where the audience doesn't have the same frame of reference.

It also makes for a shittier trilogy experience, because if he keeps up this approach, the result is that none of the movies can hinge on or properly reference director's cut material except in other director's cut material, unless he wants it to be needlessly confusing.

It also runs a pretty significant risk of almost no one watching the...initial cut? if this director's cut thing becomes well known, or no one watching the director's cut because...why would anyone assume a streaming release would have a director's cut?

The home releases are all the same. But there were two different cuts in theaters as one was a version released internationally a few weeks ahead.

Actually, I guess the only... sort of justification I can think of is if the Director's Cut would be included as a special feature of the physical release, and Netflix will only have the... Also-But-Shorter-Director's Cut. That at least creates some reason for it existing, I suppose.

I reckon Netflix would be rightfully pissed. Fuck 'em, though.

The other (cynical, but less cynical than my earlier "Zack Snyder is up his own ass" take) is that he's trying to maximize minutes watched for the Netflix algorithm. Create a shorter, easier-to-watch version to get people in, and then double your viewing minutes by drawing them into the extended version if they liked it.

Such a plan hinges upon that but, uh, Snyder is not a creator who suffers from a lack of confidence.

Edited by Larkmarn on Aug 24th 2023 at 4:15:35 AM

Right. It's Netflix. They do not care. Just add all the footage you shot into the initial release.

That might well be the plan…but it hinges on people actually liking the movie enough to watch it a second time in a longer format. And if Netflix is too hands off, it could be a repeat of the Snyder cut, which seriously needed more strict editing.

I heard about this and thought "The man FINALLY has an infinite canvas and he STILL decides to do an extended 'Director's Cut'?! no way is this legit..." And turns out...it is *facepalm*

Honestly, I'll just watch it for the 4-armed guy, even if he only shows up for two minutes.

Don't tell me, we'd have to dedicate a whole day to watch it?

I see your two minutes and raise you two seconds.