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Pulling this together from numerous conversations elsewhere about RuPaul's Drag Race and the wider Drag Race franchise.

As of January 2024:

  • The RuPaul's Drag Race series page covers both the original series and the franchise as a whole. A few spin-offs have their own pages, but most don't. This probably needs to be disentangled.
  • The Characters pages for each season (which are Spoilers Off) contain non-character tropes and are written to chronicle a contestants full history and achievements in the series, not just characterisation.
  • As per Administrivia, Characters pages must have a brief intro for each person listed - the Drag Race pages have none.
  • There are some other Fan Myopia issues with terminology and cross-references between seasons and shows. Many pages may not be written in a way that makes sense for a casual reader.
  • Not only is "Fishy" a term that suffers from Fan Myopia, it's a loaded and potentially offensive label that runs into ROCEJ (something which, in 2023, was actually called out within the show). Only use it if directly quoting someone — and explain it if using it. Examples should be written to acknowledge it, not to reinforce it as an acceptable term.
  • We can trope contestants (and their drag personas) as characters in a semi-scripted narrative, but there are some No Real Life Examples, Please! tropes listed, which should not apply - e.g. The Ace has been removed from some contestants, and tropes like The Twink have been incorrectly listed purely because tropers consider some contestants attractive.
  • Tropes like Elimination Houdini (normally YMMV) can be listed on the main pages with [[invoked]] tagging if we're talking about discussion within the show itself (e.g. if someone survives 3 lip syncs and is then referred to as a "lip sync assassin" on camera).
  • Information from outside the work creeps into some examples, which again crosses into real life troping - at that point it's no longer reality tv, as we should only be troping what happens in the work.
  • Breakout Character should only be used for a contestant who returns in a larger role within the Drag Race franchise for non-gameplay reasons (e.g. if they become a judge).
  • Tropes like The Scrappy, Base-Breaking Character and Creator's Pet can only be used if they're acknowledged within ''Drag Race'' itself. In which case they're likely to belong on the Series page for the show mentioning them (with an [[invoked]] tag) as well as, or instead of, YMMV.
  • There are recurring issues with misuse of certain tropes to fit Drag Race scenarios - e.g. Dance Battler (now largely cut) was widespread for lip sync scenarios.
  • There are some translation and language questions for non-English language shows in the franchise. For the English-language wiki, should English (e.g. from official subtitles) take precedence on quotes etc? At the moment, they're mostly in the original languages with English relegated to notes.
  • Pages are very casual about spoilers - including spoilers from other seasons or shows in the franchise, which arguably shouldn't even be on the Spoilers Off pages without warning (e.g. I may be comfortable with spoilers off on a Drag Race UK page, but that doesn't mean I'm expecting spoilers for Drag Race Thailand to be there as well).
  • Judges and Pit Crew are troped as if they were characters - but they're not contestants, and this may cross a line into real life troping (especially for people who are not performers with a drag persona).

To directly quote the Real Life Troping policy we have to follow (as of July 2023):
Reality Shows are putting real people in situations where they may act unnaturally and/or using casting decisions and selective editing to create narratives that may not be true to real life. This intentionally blurs the line between what is reality and what is fiction. Most of the time, the people on such shows are not tropable. Only in the case where there is clearly an intent to portray a fictional narrative may tropes be applied, and they may only be applied to that narrative. Examples are written in the context of the work, not describing the people with lives outside of it.

"Tropers, start your engines..."

Edited by Mrph1 on Jan 7th 2024 at 1:32:49 PM

DuPinz Cuttlefish from Björk's Fungal City Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: With my own personal Jesus -- someone to hear my prayers, someone who cares
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#26: Feb 12th 2024 at 3:31:50 AM

[up][up] I fully agree as well. Side note, I volunteer to take care of a separate Drag Race Italia page (I'm a native speaker).

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#27: Feb 12th 2024 at 3:41:57 AM

[up] Brilliant.

The wiki's just formalising a translation policy, so might be worth checking the latest on that first.

In summary, seems to be:

  • We go with English language quotes (e.g. from WOW+) for the English wiki
  • If translatiion doesn't match the original, we can call that out and trope it (e.g. Drag Race Germany swaps references to German shows for American ones - Tagort becomes CSI etc.)

DuPinz Cuttlefish from Björk's Fungal City Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: With my own personal Jesus -- someone to hear my prayers, someone who cares
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#28: Feb 12th 2024 at 9:29:44 AM

[up] Noted with thanks. I'll start setting up the page in my To Dos in the meantime.

Mrph1 he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#29: Feb 19th 2024 at 8:55:16 AM

Just launched Series.Drag Race Thailand - I'm still midway through season two, so expect to add more as I go, but there's enough there to start the page.

Mrph1 MOD he/him from Mercia (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#30: Feb 24th 2024 at 9:04:04 AM

Just noting that the Administrivia policy page Troping Works Created in Other Languages has now launched - so we do now have a policy on foreign language and translated works.

This may lead to a little cleanup on the existing Drag Race pages (e.g. we lead with English-language quotes for the English-language wiki).

DuPinz Cuttlefish from Björk's Fungal City Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: With my own personal Jesus -- someone to hear my prayers, someone who cares
Cuttlefish
#31: Apr 11th 2024 at 10:56:24 AM

Drag Race Italia has been created as a separate page. There are more tropes marked in my To Dos that I will be adding at later moments (mostly non-character tropes that I'll move from the characters pages). Everyone please have a look at it to see if I missed anything or made any blunder.

lexii from London Since: Jul, 2009
#32: Apr 20th 2024 at 6:40:38 AM

[up] Looks great, and the characters for Italia are all nicely indexed too smile

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