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Occasionally, a wick will appear on a page's "Related to" subpage, but the page in question doesn't actually contain the link listed. In fact, sometimes nonexistent pages will appear to have this nonexistent link. This is called a "ghost wick": it is a ghost haunting pages past. There are a couple of ways these wicks could've surfaced, which are related to administrative/mod deletions and reversions. The details aren't important.

Elimination of a ghost wick depends on where the wick is occuring.

On an existing page:

  • If the page is a redirect, make a null edit. It might force earlier changes to the page to register. Please leave an edit reason so others know what's going on. If that doesn't work...
  • If the page has content but no internal links at all, create one. Wicks only update if there's at least one wick on the page, so adding one will make the ghost wick disappear. If you feel there's nowhere to place an appropriate link, add a link arbitrarily (such as to the page itself), save the edit, and delete it after. Please leave an edit reason so others know what's going on.
  • If the page is ghost-indexing (creating index bars on other pages even though it's not an index), do a null edit to its page type (under Page Info; in the sidebar on desktop, bottom of the page on mobile). If it's a redirect, you'll first have to break the redirect so you can access the page type in the first place. After you're done, restore the redirect.

On a nonexistent page:

Requesting removal of ghost wicks from ghost pages is the purpose of this thread.
  • Post the page where the ghost wick is supposed to exist.
  • Alternatively, if the page is not in the Main namespace, you can recreate the page with "Ghost Wick" and a wick to the page, then add it to the Cut List where a moderator will delete it.note 

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Edited by Twiddler on Jul 8th 2023 at 1:55:52 AM

badtothebaritone (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: Snooping as usual
#26: Dec 4th 2022 at 4:27:08 PM

FanficRecs.Forever has a ghost wick for Better Than Canon.

Edited by badtothebaritone on Dec 4th 2022 at 6:27:19 AM

JankyKong "Can you see what I see?" from a Secret Base on the Moon Since: May, 2021 Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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#28: Dec 23rd 2022 at 10:44:36 AM

Characters.Mitsudomoe Honki Sentai Gachiranger hasn't been cut, but for some reason is making a wick to Names The Same.

(Sorry if this isn't the right place to go.)

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crazysamaritan NaNo 4328 / 50,000 from Lupin III Since: Apr, 2010
NaNo 4328 / 50,000
#29: Dec 23rd 2022 at 10:54:23 AM

I figured it out; when we did a moderator restoration earlier, it didn't update the wicks since then. A null edit should've fixed it.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#31: Dec 30th 2022 at 7:16:05 PM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/namespace_index.php?ns=WebAnimation&page=2

Super Mario Långben is a page we "have".

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#34: Jan 5th 2023 at 7:24:00 AM

Doing the last two.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
PhantomDusclops92 Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets from Do you even care? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets
#35: Jan 5th 2023 at 8:07:28 AM

Trivia.Mortal Kombat 2 has a ghost wick to Names The Same.

EDIT. I removed an actual wick to Names The Same on Trivia.Our Avatars Are In A Room Together but there's still a ghost one.

Edited by PhantomDusclops92 on Jan 5th 2023 at 5:10:31 PM

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#36: Jan 5th 2023 at 9:08:18 AM

Both of these are done.

The issue with the second page was that if you remove all links from a page, the website fails to record this removal.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
PhantomDusclops92 Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets from Do you even care? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets
#37: Jan 6th 2023 at 11:15:17 AM

Paladins has a ghost wick to The Chick.

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.
GoldenCityBird from the UK Since: Oct, 2018
PhantomDusclops92 Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets from Do you even care? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets
#39: Jan 9th 2023 at 12:59:43 PM

Smiggins has yet another ghost wick to The Chick.

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.
FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#40: Jan 9th 2023 at 3:11:49 PM

Ghost indexing, but whatever. Villain Song is indexed under NightmareFuel.The Silverscale Arena, even though the page is not an index.

I'd like to apologize for all this.
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#41: Jan 9th 2023 at 5:23:02 PM

Toggle the page type's indexing flag, and / or remove indexing tags in the code.

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
#42: Jan 9th 2023 at 5:45:30 PM

I null edited the page type, seems to have fixed it. Thanks.

Edited by FernandoLemon on Jan 9th 2023 at 10:46:11 AM

I'd like to apologize for all this.
chasemaddigan I'm Sad Frogerson. Since: Oct, 2011
I'm Sad Frogerson.
GoldenCityBird from the UK Since: Oct, 2018
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
PhantomDusclops92 Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets from Do you even care? Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: Charming Titania with a donkey face
Slayer of YMMV complaining magnets
#46: Jan 20th 2023 at 10:23:59 AM

Paladins, Saku and Smiggins still have ghost wicks to The Chick that haven't been removed two weeks after they were noticed in this thread.

Number one fan of characters that appear only once and ultimately were a recurring character either in disguise or trying a new image.
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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#48: Feb 6th 2023 at 5:14:12 PM

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/namespace_index.php?ns=Recap&page=5

Battle For Dream Island S5b E 3 Getting Puffball To Think About Rollercoaste is a page that was "made".

Oh, wait, it's not in Main, so I can do this myself.

Edited by Malady on Feb 6th 2023 at 5:14:42 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#49: Feb 7th 2023 at 5:11:54 AM

Angel Of Death, this Darth Wiki page is weird, but it's made by a Troper that only made one recorded edit.

Can we just cut the Darth Wiki and see if that fixes the auto-disambig, without having to save it?


I guess unfound ghost pages are the ones making ghost Music.Arrival wicks seen on Main and stuff.

Edited by Malady on Feb 7th 2023 at 5:13:55 AM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#50: Feb 8th 2023 at 9:05:12 PM

My ghost wicks might be one of the ghost pages made by trying to save a page with too-long a title.

I've never checked if those wicks false register like that.

Does anyone know a way to get a list of every page name or something?

...

Recap.Back To The Future The Animated Series S 2 E 2 Put On Your Thinking Caps Kids Its was one of those ghost pages. And Folderizer didn't reveal contents, so maybe I'm wrong.

Edited by Malady on Feb 8th 2023 at 9:11:25 AM

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