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Thread created as a spin-off of an Ask The Tropers thread.

There have been some recurring problems when it comes to how to refer to a character due to them being potentially transgender, such as Yamato or Snapdragon, or has other circumstances that make their gender identity/pronouns unclear. While in the past each character has gotten their own dedicated thread, the latest problem when it comes to how to interpreted Bridget has raised an opinion that there should be more of a general thread discussing these topics in case any future problems come up. Preferably we should discuss one character at a time before moving up to the next character.

Queries about references to a character's deadname are also on-topic here.

Spoilers in the thread must be tagged.

As a rule of thumb, using they/them in cases where the character's gender is unclear is acceptable.

If someone disregards consensus that was established here, particularly if a character is clearly trans and someone is trying to deny that, it's something to report on Ask The Tropers rather than here.

Spoilers in this "Resolved characters" folder are unmarked.

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Edited by Bisected8 on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:16:38 PM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#101: Aug 15th 2022 at 3:49:49 PM

Recap/ is a special case, since they're not supposed to reference future installments.

Fighteer:

When I wrote the rules for Recap pages, I was very clear. You can discuss things in the current episode and in past episodes but not things in the future. Write from the point of view of someone who has just seen that episode but not any future ones. This makes spoiler tagging unnecessary by its very nature.

darkblade7557 Since: Jan, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#102: Aug 16th 2022 at 3:40:52 PM
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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#103: Aug 16th 2022 at 3:51:13 PM

I mean, we go by localizations anyway, so even if Japan doesn't agree, if Bridget is a woman in English then she's a woman according to us.

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#104: Aug 16th 2022 at 3:59:30 PM

We've already established that the claim She's a Man in Japan is bunk.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#105: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:01:16 PM

Considering it's their only post other then edit banned I'm inclined to think they've not read the rest of the topic

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#106: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:01:57 PM

We have in-game confirmation and Word of God on top of that, iirc.

Anything else is pretty much irrelevant.

darkblade7557 Since: Jan, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#107: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:18:42 PM
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Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#108: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:21:49 PM

here you go!

(wink)

Seriously,there's been more then evidence she's trans

Edited by Ultimatum on Aug 16th 2022 at 12:33:03 PM

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ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#109: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:36:11 PM

that debate is over, done with, you lost. Bridget is trans.

darkblade7557 Since: Jan, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#110: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:38:08 PM
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#111: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:41:06 PM

[up] Have you not read the mod post about Bridget?

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#112: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:41:41 PM

[up][up]In the interests of maintaining a friendly civil forum, I'm going to keep my snark to myself.

Edited by Bisected8 on Aug 16th 2022 at 12:41:59 PM

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Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#113: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:46:48 PM

Best thing to do, darkblade, is make sure to fully read through a topic before commenting. But also, no need for snark either. It really doesn't help convey anything but a combative attitude where it's unnecessary.

Besides that, let's also cut out the snarky responses. This is supposed to be a civil, friendly forum. If you're getting heated over a topic, step back and take a break. It's not worth it to enrage yourself. Besides that, there's always the holler button if needed(which isn't in this case due to a simple misunderstanding), but yeah.

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#114: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:56:27 PM
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Tabs Since: Jan, 2001
#115: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:57:20 PM

Sigh. Would it help to amend the OP with characters whose discussions are resolved?

ChloeJessica Since: Jun, 2020 Relationship Status: Awaiting my mail-order bride
#116: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:58:29 PM

just read the discussion next time to make sure we haven't already been over it, please.

Irene (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#117: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:58:32 PM

That's a good idea. It's a lot easier for later participants to know. smile

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#118: Aug 16th 2022 at 4:58:57 PM

Can we get one of those fancy banner post things?

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#119: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:01:00 PM

I think we can only pin the first post, and in that case the OP would need to be updated first to act as a sticky.

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StarSword Captain of USS Bajor from somewhere in deep space Since: Sep, 2011
Captain of USS Bajor
#121: Aug 16th 2022 at 5:59:25 PM

So anyway yeah, should we standardize Topa's pronouns to she/her in non-Recap pages? I saw a couple people saying yes but then things got derailed.

The only thing I think that could really hurt is that it might cause a spoiler for season 3.

Edited by StarSword on Aug 16th 2022 at 9:00:22 AM

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Trans Siberian Anarchestra (it/they)
#122: Aug 16th 2022 at 7:42:49 PM

Yes, she/her sounds pretty clearly appropriate.

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#123: Aug 16th 2022 at 8:30:19 PM

Yep, she/her for Topa outside of recaps [tup]

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#124: Aug 17th 2022 at 3:50:03 AM

[tup] to she/her for Topa barring recaps

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