X-Men '97 (Disney +): Continuation of X-Men: The Animated Series

Gonna say other heroes at the moment. He is helping take down Bastion and has took uniform, but I don’t remember anything implying he officialy joined.

Why did they remove his yellow underwear?

Edited by Ookamikun on May 9th 2024 at 2:55:59 AM

Which is funny as Bishop is in the main team section and then he's out by the third episode. I think at this point Cable has had more screen time than him this season.

I mean. Come on. He's fucking Cable.

The Wild Man of Borneo.

Unfortunate that Bishop wound up being not getting much spotlight.

That's definitely doing to sadden/annoy some folks.

Bishop was a favorite of mine in the first series.

You know which animated series of nineties Marvel needs a sequel?

Silver Surfer. Because that one ended up with THANOS DESTROYING THE UNIVERSE.

Please explain how everyone came back from that, because it's the same universe, no?

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on May 9th 2024 at 6:00:47 AM

Oh yeah, I remember that one. x_x

It's in its own separate universe w/c among other changes only had Silver Surfer solo Galactus when he tried to eat Earth w/ no mention of the Fantastic 4 or other superheroes and he ran into Frankie Raye (who's a teen here & became Nova as soon as Galactus agreed to spare Earth) instead of Alicia Masters. Galactus was also a pretty big dickhead here.

Edited by KRider on May 9th 2024 at 6:07:58 AM

I could really see the whole situation with Magneto, the magnetic poles and all ending in the inception of ORCHIS as a sequel bait teaser.

ALIA GREGOR: Mr. President, Doctor Devo and I have an idea, and a backer. The Mutants could have destroyed the world. And they damn well destroyed mine. Which is why I propose a multinational, multiethnic coalition of scientists and military minds I am tentatively calling...ORCHIS.

Cable is now on both X-Men and Other Heroes now.

That'd be a pretty clever way of introducing Orchis, as well as depicting them more like how Johnathan Hickman wrote them - as well-intentioned extremists who were not so different from the mutants and arguably were normal humanity's equivalent of the X-Men - rather than how Post-Hickman comics flanderized them into just another generic bunch of mutant haters.

It wouldn’t surprise me if Bishop appeared in the next episode due to that question being left in the air. It also wouldn’t surprise me if part of the finale was undone given DeMayo cited a time travel episode as an influence.

The further they keep away from modern comics the happier I'll be.

I really wish I didn't know DeMayo's recommendations. (My own fault for reading them, not blaming anyone) but Cause and effect is a time loop episode. Groundhog day before Groundhog day. That's a very odd choice. It could be linked to Cable's attempted to stop the genosha genocide. but it feels like a red herring and the connection will be very tangential

Bishop having no character arc in this season, just being stuck in the present to justify how Nathan got to his future. Perhaps they can justify him thematically by having him play a role in the finale, but there doesn't seem to be the scope for it given that this week's episode has given them a lot to resolve.

Though... Exiling Bastion through time would be a poetic way to defeat him. He talks constantly about the future leaving mutants behind, so kicking him back to ancient Egypt where there's no technology for him to command would be juicy. It would also be a way to neutralise him without permanently depowering him.

Bishop does also have a personal stake in Bastion, given that Bastion is the child of Nimrod, who is the bad guy of Bishop's original timeline.

Dont like the idea of the status quo being reset after Genosha. That feels backwards in progression of the high stakes that this show set up. Especially trying to do that in the last episode of this season

Edited by M1gamiTensei on May 10th 2024 at 2:12:39 AM

Orchis would also be a good way of keeping things simple with the anti-mutant groups.

All the human hate groups sorta blend in together and don't really have distinguishing traits from each other, so it's more practical to just have one big organization represent them all.

Beast has said already that now that Genosia has happened in their timeline them and Cable are unable to change it. Perhaps the events of Tolerance Is Extinction parts 1 and 2 will be rejigged at most personally I don't put too much stake on these "spoilers". Given the lack of context.

Edited by Whowho on May 10th 2024 at 2:15:32 AM

It doesn't feel like they are heading towards ORCHIS though.

So it dawns on me that 97 is missing one thing (we've already had Scott and Jean screaming each other's names):

Bet he needs to down a lot of throat lozenges.

I still say Lenore Zann has a larynx made of solid steel, after all the screaming she did as Rogue.

You know, Xavier really is a saint. Mags doesn't appreciate him nearly enough.

Magneto kills thousands of people in a few seconds, is planning on comitting worldwide genocide so he can go and live on an asteroid or something, and Xavier is still defending him when he speaks to people.

He's still like "He's just a bean who's had his fears validated one too many times uwu"

Okay, that's a reductive way of putting it, but come on. XD

Edited by GNinja on May 10th 2024 at 12:23:43 PM

I can't wait to see Blue Team's faces reacting to Logan's mutilation

Edited by Augustus813 on May 10th 2024 at 6:21:18 AM

The great thing about Magneto and Xavier is that, to their faces, they will call each other a crazy megalomaniac or a hopelessly naive idealist and worse but then when someone else says those things, they immediately jump to the other's defense. Magneto talking about Charles's dream and how he just wanted a better future for mutant and Charles insisting that Magneto's actions, while obviously going too far, are understandable and are the result of human bigotry pushing him to extremes. It's evidence of how much they care for and understand each other despite everything.

[1] I don't know if there's an official source, but I'm pretty sure I read somewhere here that DeMayo hates the Krakoa era.

[2]Ain't that the truth! I bought the RoboCop: The Series DVD set ten years ago (yes, blame the reboot film) and started to notice a bunch of voice talent from the original cartoon guest starred in it — including Zann. And my confirmation that it was her was the first time she opened her mouth — and it was a freaking yell, not actual dialogue.

Also, while I agree Xavier spent too much time in space, he still has a valid point about Magnus being off the rocker.

Edited by Anicomicgeek on May 11th 2024 at 3:45:21 PM