Since we have a thread discussing the video game industry, I thought it would be appropriate to have a thread discussing the practices and going ons of the film and tv industries. Especially in light of recent news surrounding the sets of Batwoman and Rust.
This will not be about films and tv shows but rather about the practices and behind-the-scenes news affecting the industries.
‘Rust’ Fallout: Hollywood Studios and Unions Fail to Reach Deal on Firearm Safety
Cartoon Network studios is effectively gone thanks to David Zaslav.
The short version is a quarter of the CNS was fired/vacancies would no longer be filled, and they are being merged with WB Animation. This is bad because WBA focused on the existing brands and I Ps while CNS were the ones making original IP. We pretty much knew this would happen but it's still a bad day for Animation.
This is probably the ugliest year of animation history when we look back on it.
Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.Oh Yeong-su, ‘Squid Game’ Star and Golden Globe Winner, Indicted for Sexual Misconduct
Haven't watched Squid Game yet, but that's an OOF moment.
Speaking of Koreans, I wonder how the Korean outsourcing in animation is affected by recent events, such as Zaslav's pruning of Warner-Discovery?
Edited by alnair20aug93 on Nov 27th 2022 at 6:19:09 PM
ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔|I DO COMMISSIONS|ᜇᜎᜈ᜔ᜇᜈ᜔Warner Bros. Television Studios Close To Striking Animation Deal With Amazon For DC-Branded Content
Dungey teased the news at Content London, stating that the studio is “exploring animated IP on different platforms,” including WBD-owned HBO Max.
“With animation we used to be about staying in-house but now we are doing it on different platforms,” she added. “HBO Max is the first stop but we are in the process of closing a big deal with Amazon featuring DC branded content in animation.”
so is if with amazon does that mean that content will be in prime video?
Most likely. I doubt Amazon would take a deal like that only for physical releases or anything.
Wake me up at your own risk.I just saw this Variety article saying in the US a new ruling means movie studios can be sued for misleading trailers.
That sounds incredibly dumb.
Edited by ShinyCottonCandy on Dec 22nd 2022 at 10:33:53 AM
SoundCloudAll the ruling is is that movie trailers are bound by laws against false advertising the same way other adverts are. The test case was a film heavily advertising an particular actor who then wasn’t in the film.
Seems reasonable to me.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranYeah, most advertising quibbles might not be considered a big deal.
Like, a movie with a serious twist in it having ads that completely hide said twist? It'd be really hard to argue that it shouldn't be like that because it doesn't actually hurt the experience of watching the movie.
But if, say, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow was like "starring Lawrence Olivier in his last performance!" That'd be true in the most technical sense possible, but so misleading that it would reasonably make people angry. Giving top billing to Angelina Jolie though, who isn't in the movie that much but basically takes it over when she is isn't nearly as much of an issue.
Or like if Babylon 5 was like "starring Bryan Cranston!" Like, yeah, he did show up in one episode, but not really in that major of a role and he never appeared elsewhere. It's effectively lying to draw attention.
Not Three Laws compliant.> Seems reasonable to me.
aside from people suing them for like millions according to the article
New theme music also a boxAna de Armas Fans’ Lawsuit Puts Studios at Risk Over Deceptive Trailers
U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson issued a ruling in a case involving “Yesterday,” the 2019 film about a world without the Beatles.
Two Ana de Armas fans filed a lawsuit in January, alleging that they had rented the movie after seeing de Armas in the trailer, only to discover that she was cut out of the final film.
Universal sought to throw out the lawsuit, arguing that movie trailers are entitled to broad protection under the First Amendment. The studio’s lawyers argued that a trailer is an “artistic, expressive work” that tells a three-minute story conveying the theme of the movie, and should thus be considered “non-commercial” speech.
I'm with the judge on this one. The main purpose of the trailers is to get people to watch the movie or series, so they are commercial speech and should be treated the same as other advertisement.
Hirano Aya’s Harassment in the Anime Industry All Too Common
Voice actress Hirano Aya, whose many credits include The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya, Death Note, and Fairy Tail, knows this firsthand. While the bulk of her work now consists of stage productions, she recently shared on Twitter how she continues to receive death threats and deal with slander whenever she works in anime again [1].
Unfortunately, we’ve seen how even the whisper of a rumored romance or sexual dalliance can derail an idol’s career. That’s almost what happened to Hirano, who was restricted from taking on new anime roles following the “scandal.” Only after switching to a different agency could Hirano find new work.
Edited by windleopard on Jan 11th 2023 at 7:33:04 PM
Huh? I didn't expect that I have to use VPN to access that site from Indonesia. As for why, Indonesian government establish a law that forbid Internet provider from allowing access to websites that the government deem immoral or threaten public order like promoting hate speech, which the government enforce with fairness and integrity(lol).
I just find it both weird and hilarious, that site is one of them forbidden sites despite having nothing dangerous in it. I guess there are butthurt weebs among the admin here.
Edited by SteamKnight on Jan 12th 2023 at 4:58:41 PM
I'm not as witty as I think I am. It's a scientifically-proven fact.Nickelodeon kicks the hornets' nest, launches Zoey 102 movie with Jamie Lynn Spears
I'm gonna say this.
They're milking these to the last drop for desperation.
Close to 16 months after Baldwin took the life of Hutchins and wounded the movie’s director Joel Souza with a loaded gun on the set of indie western Rust, New Mexico First Judicial District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies today has finally unveiled her decision as to who should be charged and not charged in the tragic incident.
“After a thorough review of the evidence and the laws of the state of New Mexico, I have determined that there is sufficient evidence to file criminal charges against Alec Baldwin and other members of the Rust film crew,” Carmack-Altwies said Thursday. “On my watch, no one is above the law, and everyone deserves justice.”
In charges set to be formally filed by the end of the month, Baldwin and Gutierrez-Reed will each be charged with two counts of involuntary manslaughter in Hutchins’ death.
Heading towards a hearing before a state judge and then a jury trial, the first charge is a fourth-degree felony with sentencing of up to 18 months in jail and a $5,000 fine. The second charge, which is formally an involuntary manslaughter in the commission of a lawful act charge, is also a fourth-degree felony punishable by up to 18 months in jail and up to a $5000 fine. However, the second charge additionally carries a firearm enhancement. That gives the offense a punishing mandatory five years behind bars if Baldwin and Gutierrez-Reed are found guilty.
Long a key figure in the events surrounding Hutchins’ death, Rust assistant director David Halls reached a plea agreement with prosecutors for the charge of negligent use of a deadly weapon. The industry vet faces a suspended sentence and six months of probation, the D.A.’s office said today. While Baldwin has in the past vowed to fight any charges, Halls’ plea deal and the cooperation he likely has had with prosecutors could become a major factor for the actor going forward.
“If any one of these three people—Alec Baldwin, Hannah Gutierrez-Reed or David Halls—had done their job, Halyna Hutchins would be alive today. It’s that simple,” stated Andrea Reeb, the special prosecutor assigned to the case. “The evidence clearly shows a pattern of criminal disregard for safety on the ‘Rust’ film set. In New Mexico, there is no room for film sets that don’t take our state’s commitment to gun safety and public safety seriously,” Reeb added.
Over the months, while the Santa Fe Sheriff’s office put the final touches on its wide ranging investigation of the late 2021 shooting at the Bonanza Creek Ranch, the D.A. has been partially planting the seeds for today’s announcement.
An August 30 letter to the New Mexico Board of Finance from Carmack-Altwies revealed the D.A’s possible intentions to prosecute as many as four individuals with criminal and homicide charges related to Rust including “one of the possible defendants” being “well known movie actor Alec Baldwin.” In her ask, Carmack-Altwies was requesting $635,000 for the matter, but was only granted $317,750 by the state.
Much has happened around the Rust tragedy on-screen and in the courts, as many have waited on Carmack-Altwies’ decision.
In an ABC news interview with George Stephanopoulos in December 2021, Baldwin insisted he never actually pulled the trigger of the gun that took Hutchins’ life during a quick-draw rehearsal move in a church location on the set of Rust. Just minutes before the shots that killed Hutchins and wounded Souza, Baldwin was told by Assistant Director Dave Halls that the 1880s Colt prop weapon was a “cold gun, as many witnesses including Hall have asserted. Seemingly indifferent to his own tone, Baldwin also told the Good Morning America co-host in the now infamous sit-down, that he had been told by people who are in the know, in terms of even inside the state, that it’s highly unlikely that I would be charged with anything criminally.”
Just a couple of weeks prior to the anniversary of the tragedy, Baldwin and Rust producers reached a settlement with the Hutchins Estate on October 5, 2022, ending the wrongful death suit brought forth in mid-February against the production and the actor, who also served as a producer on the $7 million budgeted film.
Part of the agreement entailed the DP’s husband Matthew Hutchins becoming an executive producer on the resurrected Rust movie, which was scheduled to start reshooting this month. While the production has been scouting locations in California, such as Simi Valley, Deadline heard, no official word has been given about the Western fully resuming production and where it would actually film. There is also no word if Rust has been able to get insured, a necessary requirement to make a movie.
At the time the deal with the Hutchins estate was made public, the Santa Fe-based District Attorney made sure that there was no perception this was all over. “The proposed settlement announced today in Matthew Hutchins’ wrongful death case against Rust movie producers, including Alec Baldwin, in the death of Halyna Hutchins will have no impact on District Attorney Mary Carmack-Altwies’ ongoing investigation or her ultimate decision whether to file criminal charges in the case,” her office said in a quickly issued statement.
Staying in the public eye over the last year, Baldwin was set to star in the spy movie Chief of Station, shooting in Budapest, however, the actor had to vacate the role over scheduling issues back on October 31.
As civil lawsuits and that wrongful death action from Hutchins’ family hit court dockets in New Mexico and California over the last year, the Santa Fe County Sheriff’s Office in late 2022 finally made public the FBI assisted police report which detailed the calamities that ensued before the shooting of Hutchins on October. 21, 2021.
The raw 551-page report cast suspicion on Rust armorer Hannah Gutierrez-Reed, among others on what appeared to be an openly problematic set. Dolly grip Ross Addiego, for instance, claimed to police that the armorer and her crew had issues that involved “negligent discharges”. The armorer was preparing one of six guns and one of the revolvers went off toward her foot. A few minutes later at the cabin set, a discharged gun went off that wasn’t announced, which would have been assistant director Dave Halls’ responsibility to announce, per Addiego.
Besides the live round in the gun in Baldwin’s hand, the FBI found five more rounds of live ammo on the Rust set, the report detailed. Additionally, the report cast doubt on Baldwin’s assertion that he never pulled the trigger. “With the hammer at full cock, the revolver could not be made to fire without a pull of the trigger while the working internal components were intact and functional,” the document stated.
The report also went into detail on other instances of guns going off on Rust.
Reese Price, a key grip, told authorities that “accidental discharge” occurred twice during the course of one day on set. “One of the accidental discharges occurred by ‘armorer girl’ who was messing with a gun,” Price told authorities. Souza, in his interview with the cops, reported there wasn’t any negligence on the set, and didn’t believe the armorer intermingled live rounds with blanks.
While staying in the public eye over the last year, multi-Emmy winner Baldwin hasn’t been in front of the camera much professionally since the Rust shooting. Baldwin was set to star in the spy movie Chief of Station, shooting in Budapest, however, the actor had to vacate the role over scheduling issues back on October 31.
In that vein, in mid-November last year, Baldwin took on the role of plaintiff and hit Rust armorer Gutierrez Reed, first assistant director Halls, property master Sarah Zachry, and weapons and rounds supplier Seth Kenney and his company with a negligence lawsuit.
Filed in LA Superior Court, the action claimed that “Baldwin has also lost numerous job opportunities and associated income” because of what happened on Rust. “For example, he’s been fired from multiple jobs expressly because of the incident on Rust and has been passed over for other opportunities, which is a direct result of the negligence of Cross-Defendants Gutierrez-Reed, Halls, Kenney, PDQ, and Zachry,” stated the cross-complaint paperwork prepared by Quinn Emanuel attorney Luke Nikas for Baldwin.
Along with a much challenged but still enduring suit from Rust‘s script supervisor Mamie Mitchell, that matter remains before the California courts.
Edited by DreamCord on Jan 19th 2023 at 9:14:24 AM
Hey.So how culpable is Baldwin exactly?
Personally, I don’t think he should be held that liable. If he was aware of the whole issue with the armorer, he probably should have said something, but it wasn’t his job to make sure the armorer was doing their job. He’s the most famous person involved, but he’s just an actor, there’s like eight other people whose responsibility it should have been to shut down production before it got to him.
Not Three Laws compliant.Baldwin isn't a rookie on set with guns, there is an established procedure on set in handling guns that was not followed and Baldwin knew that.
Process is the Armorer is on set, the gun is checked IN FRONT of the actor by the armorer then handed to the actor, scene is shot, gun instantly handed back to the armorer.
In this case the Armorer wasn't on set, wasn't called back to handle the gun, (she stated she didn't even know they were shooting the scene with the gun until AFTER the gun was fired) the AD grabbed the gun, didn't complete a check, let alone a check in front of Baldwin, then Baldwin was asked to POINT THE GUN AT A PERSON. Then Manipulated the gun to the point where it went off. (Baldwin claimed he never pulled the trigger, FBI report stated that the only way that gun fires is if you do pull the trigger)
Again HUGE NO NO PERIOD let alone on a movie set, and in the rare cases it needs to be pointed at the camera/camera operators, blast shields are in place. Note Baldwin has indulged in victim blaming stating he was 'Told to point it at her, she told me to do that'
Even if Baldwin was not aware of the previous safety issues, he should have seen the lack of them on set that day, but he still decided to ignore those red flags, took the gun, pointed it at a person, set it off. And somebody died.
This is incorrect, he’s also a producer on the film (and a writer), meaning he had responsibilities for production well beyond that of a simple actor. I’d argue that his status as a producer is a solid argument that it very much was “his job to make sure the armorer was doing their job.”
The statement declaring that he will be charged makes mention of both positions, indicating that the charges are being taken forward due to his actions in both capabilities.
Edited by Silasw on Jan 20th 2023 at 5:09:18 PM
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ Cyranthey were using live ammunition for fuck sake
New theme music also a box
Here's another article on the merger and how it's affecting some of their animation.
Vicious HBO Max Purge Wipes CN's Best Content Off The Face Of The Earth
https://animesuperhero.com/vicious-hbo-max-purge-wipes-cns-best-content-off-the-face-of-the-earth/