Character-Specific Pages (CSPs) are created when individual characters have so many trope examples that they can't reasonably be included on a shared page.
The Administrivia Character-Specific Pages policy details the rules that apply to these pages. All Character-Specific Pages must also follow the basic How to Create a Character Page policy, as well as the wiki's more general policies about spoilers and examples.
This cleanup thread handles the following tasks:
- Reviewing and approving new CSP proposals. All new potential CSPs must be reviewed and, if necessary, cleaned up before they're created.
- Agreeing on page names for new CSPs.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a new CSP is created.
- Reviewing existing CSPs if there's a concern that they need cleanup, or if it's believed that the character may no longer qualify for a page.
- Merging existing CSPs into other character pages when necessary.
- Ensuring that wicks are updated when a CSP is removed/merged.
- Creating, updating and cutting redirects, as necessary, to reflect these splits and merges.
Crowners are not normally required but, where appropriate, can be used to formalise decisions on any of these points.
If a character no longer qualifies for a CSP, it's often more practical to turn the CSP into a redirect than to cut the page entirely. This keeps the page history visible to users, and also helps to steer offsite 'inbound' traffic (search engine results) to the right place. With that in mind, cut requests for CSPs may be declined and referred to this thread if they don't have a clear consensus.
Comments linking back to this thread can be added to CSPs when needed - e.g. to confirm their creation was approved, to warn tropers that a cleanup is in progress, or to note the date and outcome of a more recent review.
We also have some more general threads for character page help -
- Character Page Cleanup
: for trope misuse, zero-context examples, spoiler tagging issues etc.
- Are these character tropes?: for queries about whether particular tropes belong on a character page or on the work's page.
This is not a policy discussion thread, it's a cleanup thread — any requests for policy changes need to be raised in Wiki Talk.
Mod update 07 Mar 2024, reflecting new CSP policy, updated again 22 Mar 2024 to mention redirects for removed CSPs
- Other options must have been tried first, like splitting pages into further groups.
- The character's folder is cleaned up beforehand, fixing any Zero-Context Examples and Wall of Text entries and removing any outdated, misused, or non-character tropes.
- A character's folder is at least 6,000 words/40,000 characters (with spaces). Here is a byte counter.note
- The current character page bypasses technical limitations and requires a split up.
- A single character takes up the majority of a page or is disproportionately bigger than other folders.
Splitting a character into their own page is a major change and needs to be run by the community before it is enacted. Even if you believe a character meets these requirements, they should be run through this thread first. Having other tropers take a look can help spot issues you may not notice or believe to be issues.
Per How to Create a Character Page, character-specific pages should only include tropes that describe the character. These tropes should fall under Characterization Tropes or one of its related indexes, unless they're recurring character traits (distinctive things that the character does repeatedly). If you're unsure what counts as a character trope, you can ask the Are these Character Tropes? thread.
If you have concerns with a general character page, they have their own separate cleanup thread, as do the self-demonstrating character pages.
Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 22nd 2024 at 10:22:03 AM
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Lawrence is done
Land of the Lustrous: Phosphophyllite is only at 27,788 bytes — merging with Land of the Lustrous: The Lustrous
Edited by KhunRun on Jul 20th 2021 at 10:28:21 AM
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Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
This'll be a pain for CM stuff, but as I mentioned in the other thread:
- Adventure Time: The Lich is only 37k+ words.
- Gotham - Jerome Valeska is only 38k+. BUT, could he and his brother's pages be combined somehow? That'd be about 80k or so.
- Batman Film Series: The Joker is also under 40k.
Edited by ACW on Jul 21st 2021 at 9:26:18 AM
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Merge them all… unless the Valeskas are closely tied together/associated with each other really closely to justify just the two of them on the same page
Lies and Violence!
The Valeskas are collectively the show's unofficial Joker, they can share a page.
"The Juice is Loose."
Yeah The Valeskas are connected enough to share a page in my opinion.
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Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
Someone wanna try and expand the Lick and Joker before someone merges them?
I'm just pointing out the issues; someone else can merge.
Ditto the Valeskas; I dunno what the page should be.
Edited by ACW on Jul 21st 2021 at 12:31:14 PM
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Professor Gigachad
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Merged the Cars pages
RWBY Raven Branwen is at 37,424 bytes. Merged.
Edited by KhunRun on Jul 21st 2021 at 9:31:55 AM
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Franchouchou Sponsor
I'd say put that back in Anima
"The Juice is Loose."
Merge it back.
Anyone here more familair with redirects want to handle the Yondu and Nebula? I don't want to flat out cut them, but I don't know how to do the redirects.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 21st 2021 at 11:07:18 AM
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Musician/Composer
So, anyone want to take a crack at the Characters.Star Wars pages?
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
"The Juice is Loose."
I have been meaning two. We already cut one.
Franchouchou Sponsor
How many pages does that have for cleanup?
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Professor Gigachad
I could take a look at it I am a star wars fan after all.
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To make a redirect, delete everything from the page and add only "[[redirect:Namespace of the page you're redirecting to]]". For example, for Raven Branwen I used [[redirect:Characters/RWBYAnima]]
For Hazbin Hotel:
- Hazbin Hotel Charlotte Charlie Magne (22,733 bytes)
- Hazbin Hotel Angel Dust (31,336 bytes)
Merged.
For Star Wars:
- Star Wars – Yoda (33,444 bytes)
- Star Wars – Qui-Gon Jinn (19,024 bytes)
- Knights of the Old Republic - Revan (21,436 bytes)
- Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords - The Jedi Exile (31,742 bytes)
- Star Wars – Asajj Ventress (37,941 bytes)
- Star Wars – Kanan Jarrus (36,210 bytes)
Edited by KhunRun on Jul 21st 2021 at 10:39:56 AM
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Musician/Composer
I've merged all but one of the Star Wars character pages that are less than 40,000 bytes.
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
reconsidering
I'm sure this won't make much of a difference because you've already got started but I'm not in here everyday so I'll say it anyway-
This makes perfect sense for characters that are part of one series or work, but superhero comic book characters are a unique concept. They should not be automatically included in this cleanup just because of page length. If this has already been discussed separately I will drop it but this doesn't seem to match what the comic book namespace cleanup is doing
I don't care if it's a comic book page or a character page, but Harley Quinn should have her own page somewhere. Not a folder under batman- she had been in a bunch of stuff, including shows, movies, non batman comics and her own comic. when people look up Harley Quinn, the most user friendly thing is to direct them to a single page about this characters DC comics version, which also includes a list of other versions, such as Suicide Squad
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I think that's a valid argument – comic book characters like Harley Quinn and Deadpool's Character Specific Pages haven't been merged or deleted yet… I'd be fine exempting major comic book characters, but would also like it if the comic book cleanup tried to beef up the character pages (in a legit manner without shoehorning, misuse, etc.) so this 40,000 requirement at least tries to get followed so there are few exceptions (which I think(?) shouldn't be that hard to do given how long these characters have existed and how many stories they've been in)
Also:
- Star Wars - Chewbacca (Character Sheet) (20,773 bytes)
- Merged
- Star Wars - Lando Calrissian (Character Sheet) (21,622 bytes)
- Merged
- X-Men Film Series: Laura (33,422 bytes)
- Merged
- The Godfather Vito Corleone (18,387 bytes)
- Merged
- The Godfather Michael Corleone (23,366 bytes)
- Merged
- Evil Dead - Ash Williams (28,101 bytes)
- Friday The13th Tommy Jarvis (5,422 bytes)
- The Dark Crystal The Chamberlain (30,724 bytes)
- Merged
- Homestar Runner Homestar (12,559 bytes)
- Homestar Runner Strong Bad (23,027 bytes)
- Black Butler Sebastian Michaelis (25,432 bytes)
- Merged
Edited by KhunRun on Jul 22nd 2021 at 8:41:05 AM
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Musician/Composer
We can also take a look at the Characters.One Piece subpages and see if any pages that are less than 40,000 bytes need to be merged.
He/His/Him. No matter who you are, always Be Yourself.
Manga Brainrot 🦋
Already did. All the One Piece Character Specific Pages are well above 40,000 bytes
Musician/Composer
Just wanted to be sure.
Fullmetal Alchemist Greed is only at 37,277 bytes — merging with Fullmetal Alchemist: Homunculi
The Formatter
Idk how everythings going but I'm working on the Comic Book Namespace cleanup and I'm trying to figure out how we should do pages like Deadpool or Harley Quinn. With Deadpool his pages are seperated into Deadpool, Deapool Supporting Characters, and Deadpool Rogues Gallery so If he is moved I'm not sure where we would move him back to.
Edited by GateStarX on Jul 22nd 2021 at 1:57:29 AM
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Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster
So is Harley keeping her own page, or is it getting merged? I need to know if this Harley for Complete Monster should be potholed to Ax-Crazy, or to Batman Harley Quinn.
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Also MCU: Yondu Udonta (32,157 bytes) and MCU: Nebula (38,401 bytes) need to be merged back with MCU: Guardians of the Galaxy (68,439 bytes).
Lawrence Of Arabia TE Lawrence (15,752 bytes) definitly needs to be merged back as the og place it's from is only around 29,000 bytes.
Edited by Bullman on Jul 20th 2021 at 11:56:27 AM
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