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Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#76: Jun 15th 2021 at 9:06:48 AM

Reads more like underestimation of prestige TV to me.

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#77: Jun 15th 2021 at 6:03:15 PM

Well, not everyone in the biz views this merger in a negative light. Cinemark executives have actually praised both the WarnerDiscovery and the MGM/Amazon deals as a way to help bolster film production.

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#78: Jun 15th 2021 at 8:02:23 PM

The worst we can probably expect is a lateral move considering how AT&T has been running things.

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#79: Jun 17th 2021 at 12:34:05 PM

Looks like Reed Hastings has a job offer for Jason Kilar.

Lol.

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#80: Jun 18th 2021 at 9:43:15 AM

Might want to elaborate there.

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#81: Jun 18th 2021 at 11:14:35 AM

A correction was already issued.

Double lol.

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#82: Jun 23rd 2021 at 4:59:55 PM

Looks like we got some word on the future of WB Games. AT&T and WarnerMedia are selling off Playdemic to EA while the rest of WB Games will remain at the newly merged company.

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#83: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:12:35 PM

I had literally never heard about Playdemic before so it doesn't seem like a big loss. At the very least Mortal Kombat isn't in EA's grubby paws.

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#84: Jun 23rd 2021 at 5:20:16 PM

[up]OTOH, it does put Zaslav's commitment to the video game industry in open question. What happens if other studios are next to get sold? Even if they're not losing money?

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#85: Apr 8th 2022 at 5:50:53 PM

It's officially complete. Welcome to Warner Bros. Discovery, with a new, yet familiar logo and website.

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/fp2qsy6xmam_dcw.jpeg

At close of the WarnerMedia spinoff, AT&T had said it expected to reap $43 billion (and the new WBD to assume up to approximately $43 billion of additional debt). AT&T aimed to use the proceeds from the Warner Media spinoff to pay down net debt, which stood at $156.2 billion at the end of 2021.

Per Warner Bros. Discovery’s Friday release announcing the closed transaction, “AT&T received $40.4 billion in cash and Warner Media’s retention of certain debt. Additionally, shareholders of AT&T received 0.241917 shares of WBD for each share of AT&T common stock they held at close. As a result, AT&T shareholders received 1.7 billion shares of WBD, representing 71% of WBD shares on a fully diluted basis.” AT&T had put in the disclaimer “$43 billion (subject to adjustments)” in prior announcements.

According to WBD, “Discovery’s existing shareholders own the remainder of the new company. In addition to their new shares of WBD common stock, AT&T shareholders continue to hold the same number of shares of AT&T common stock they held immediately prior to close.”

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#86: Aug 4th 2022 at 6:42:59 AM

Thought I'd bump this in light of all the news (and rumors) surrounding the merger lately.

The investor relations presentation is at 4:30 EST, here's the official webcast.

Edited by lbssb on Aug 4th 2022 at 6:44:26 AM

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#87: Aug 4th 2022 at 7:02:51 AM

Honestly appreciate the link, hoping I'll be able to listen in.

Dunno if this would be the more appropriate thread for the list 48 hours of news for HBO Max because I wanna scream into all the pillows.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#88: Aug 4th 2022 at 8:32:44 AM

Well, for those not following the discussion that sprung out of the DC thread or isn't on various fan fora or Film Twitter/Reddit:

The latter point is the one that confuses me most from a branding perspective, so take with however much salt you need. HBO is the grandaddy of Prestige TV and still has a lot of current awards season darlings (Succession, Barry) in addition to their their back catalog (the likes of The Sopranos and Game of Thrones), while Max has been greenlighting a lot of eccentric shows (Our Flag Means Death, for one).

Ahead of the likely purge, Forbes has put out an article distinguishing which shows are with HBO and which shows are with HBO Max, acknowledging that this list might look really different in a few days:

HBO Originals (Presumably Safe)

  • Succession
  • House of the Dragon (upcoming)
  • The Last of Us (upcoming)
  • Euphoria
  • True Detective
  • Barry
  • Curb Your Enthusiasm
  • The Righteous Gemstones
  • Westworld
  • The White Lotus
  • The Nevers
  • Industry
  • The Gilded Age

HBO Max Originals (Presumably Not Safe)

  • Our Flag Means Death
  • Gossip Girl
  • Pretty Little Liars: Original Sin
  • Hacks
  • Warrior
  • Titans
  • Doom Patrol
  • Harley Quinn
  • Peacemaker (but James Gunn has said season 2 is safe)
  • The Penguin Batman Spin-Off (upcoming)
  • Arkham Batman Spin-Off (upcoming)
  • Minx
  • Rap Sh!t
  • Tokyo Vice
  • Fboy Island
  • And Just Like That
  • The Sex Lives of College Girls
  • The Flight Attendant

Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 4th 2022 at 10:53:51 AM

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#89: Aug 4th 2022 at 8:37:04 AM

Yeah uh it's unlikely those upcoming shows come out now?

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#90: Aug 4th 2022 at 8:52:03 AM

I'm concerned with Hazbin Hotel as it's rumored that it will stream on HBO Max. Although given that the series with with A24 (an independent company) would they be able to jump ship and go elsewhere if they were originally premiering on Max?

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#91: Aug 4th 2022 at 9:01:54 AM

[up] I mean, I remember reading that A24 was making HBO Max its primary home by way of putting most of its movies there. Earlier, I would've thought Hazbin would be no exception, but if WBD is going to continue imploding because its current boss is a gargantuan idiot putting too much stock in unscripted BS, then I don't see why A24 wouldn't at least think about taking their business elsewhere.

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#92: Aug 4th 2022 at 9:40:25 AM

[up] I'm asking about this in particular because the series is currently in development so I don't no if an independent work can just up and leave during production and find somebody else.

Synchronicity (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#94: Aug 4th 2022 at 3:32:25 PM

An objectively funny image, tweeted by a Decider editor:

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/merg.png

Anyway, news thus far:

  • Merged company is down $2B but the subscriber base is up (they say) [1]
  • We are def getting a new app in Summer of next year [2]
WBD did not announce what the new brand name for the merged service will be, nor did execs discuss pricing for the unified streamer. Warner Bros. Discovery is initially focused on the ad-supported and ad-free versions of the combined HBO Max-Discovery+, Perrette said, but is also “exploring how to reach customers in the free, ad-supported space” with content that is totally different from what’s on the premium VOD services.

HBO may or may not be part of the name of the unified direct-to-consumer WBD platform; Perrette said he company is doing research on consumer perception of the HBO Max name. But, HBO will continue to be a major brand: “HBO will always be the beacon and the ultimate brand that stands for television quality,” he said on the call.

The merged HBO Max-Discovery+ will combine the best elements of both services, said Perrette. He said HBO Max has had “performance and customer” issues but offers a rich set of features; Discovery+ has more limited features but provides a more robust underlying delivery capability.

  • Kid's and family content will face cuts [3]
  • DC to get a "10-year-plan" and dedicated creative team [4]

Edited by Synchronicity on Aug 4th 2022 at 5:33:31 AM

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#95: Aug 4th 2022 at 3:47:36 PM

I searched that IGN review and it's basically "yeah, it's good if you like food shows. Good interface".

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#96: Aug 4th 2022 at 3:49:01 PM

Guy Fieri heading to flavour Town. Grilling in the name off.[lol]

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#97: Aug 4th 2022 at 3:51:10 PM

What I got is discovery's catalogue entire catalogue consists of awful trashy reality shows

One example: Here Comes Honey Boo Boo

Which was actually created by Zaslav himself

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#98: Aug 4th 2022 at 3:56:07 PM

That's still on?

I thought it got cancelled after the mothers boyfriend turned out to be a pedophile.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#99: Aug 4th 2022 at 3:56:57 PM

Oh its cancelled of course, its just ya know part of their "prestigious" catalogue

Cause thats the kind of shit Discovery makes

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 4th 2022 at 3:59:47 AM

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#100: Aug 4th 2022 at 4:01:05 PM

How likely would this cause different studios to start abandoning Warner on mass?


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