Jerks Are Worse Than Cleanup Threads

Should I add JAWTV to Angel Bunny from MLP Friendship is Magic? Contrary to popular belief Angel is not The Scrappy or even a Hate Sink however people hate him solely for abusing Fluttershy in a handful of episodes and wish death on him compared to Chrysalis and Cozy Glow who are irredeemable villains (Hate Sinks).

Could you write up a test example to see what that would look like in practice?

Any thoughts on the Slow Damage example here?

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Lemme give it a go.

• Compared to the likes of irredeemable villains (Lord Tirek, Cozy Glow, Queen Chrysalis), villains that either didn't get redeemed or got redeemed too late (Svengallop, Zesty Gourmand, Lightning Dust, Wind Rider), the most utterly unambiguously reviled character in the show... is Fluttershy's pet rabbit Angel Bunny. What was his worst crime? Being bratty, and mean to his owner. While many characters who hurt Fluttershy in some way, get some manner hate from her rabid fans, Angel Bunny takes the cake, as he is the closest thing Fluttershy has to family in Ponyville. What makes this worse, is that even after Angel hatred somewhat died down after some episodes that showed he truly cared, even his offscreen death of old age didn't stop the hate.

Edited by Klavice on Nov 5th 2023 at 1:08:51 AM

That sounds like it counts to me.

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Bumping cuz of this example on South Park:

• Scott Tenorman from "Scott Tenorman Must Die" is a bully who conned Cartman out of $10 by selling him pubes, tricked him out of another $16.12, tricked him into traveling hundreds of miles to a "pube fair", made him beg for the money only to burn it out of spite, and broadcast the video of Cartman begging and dancing to the entire town. As payback, Cartman tricks Scott's parents into being killed by a crazy redneck farmer, then turns their corpses into chili and feeds it to Scott. While everyone agrees that what Cartman did to Scott is way worse than anything Scott did, it's still nearly impossible to actually feel any sympathy for Scott since he kept bullying Cartman and refused to stop.

Thing is, while some people may find Scott to be a jerk, that last sentence seems contradictory. I've definitely seen people feed bad for Scott at the end of the episode, even if his whole shtick is being an awful teenage bully. People definitely Love to Hate Cartman more, but that's because Scott only has two appearances (one of which is in a Banned Episode) so he never got much attention beyond being the victim of Cartman's Moral Event Horizon anyway.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

I think the entire scenario is too comically exaggerated for the trope to apply. You're laughing at the audacity of the scenario, not actually cheering on the "villain" over the "jerk".

Yeah, that's so cartoonish that neither actually seem like valid characters for the scenario. It's way too over the top on both ends.

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Can I add this to YMMV.Dhar Mann? Watching the Mischief Mikey videos really make me despise the adults more then Mikey himself.

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Mikey is meant to be rooted against for being a naughty brat who chooses the easy way out instead of putting in actual hard work and lying constantly, but the adults in his videos, especially his own mother, are far more despised for for often lying in turn to Mikey (one of which include pretending he’s suffering an allergic reaction, far worse then even Mikey went) and punishing him in heavy-handed ways while letting his younger brother Jayden off with none, and on the flipside making Mikey downright sympathetic.

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Just checking before I add it.

Edited by generation81 on May 4th 2024 at 8:53:05 AM

I wouldn't call Mikey a "villain" though

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More an Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonist case, though.

If it doesn't qualify though, I won't do it then.

Yeah, I don't think he does. The trope is about the contrast between unrealistic and fun bad guys versus realistically unlikable jerks.

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Okay then.