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(Edited Mar 28 2024, adding bullet about OTC and amending layout a little)

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 29th 2024 at 10:55:20 AM

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Industrious Incisors
#51: Nov 19th 2020 at 8:41:09 AM

Besides, I think that sort of thing (getting rid of dead pages with illegal characters in their names) is beyond the powers of even the mods, and would need admin action. And they aren't exactly easy to reach.

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Miss_Desperado https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YD2i1FzUYA from somewhere getting rained on by Puget Sound Since: Sep, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#52: Nov 19th 2020 at 8:45:57 AM

It can’t be cutlisted due to the invalid namespace.
That's weird. Is that a bug?

Edited by Miss_Desperado on Nov 19th 2020 at 8:46:41 AM

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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#53: Nov 19th 2020 at 9:22:35 AM

[up] Yeah, special characters in titles break the cutlist and just erase the request.

Edited by jandn2014 on Nov 19th 2020 at 12:22:53 PM

back lol
Theatre_Maven_3695 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#54: Nov 23rd 2020 at 12:02:31 PM

Why did the "things that make you go lol" thread get nuked? Wouldn't it have been better to just thump the popcorn bait and move on? Just curious.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from Second Star to the left (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Wishfully thinking
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#55: Nov 23rd 2020 at 12:05:07 PM

Its still there ,please avoid using terms like 'nuked' to describe a locked thread

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Serac she/her Since: Mar, 2016 Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
she/her
#56: Nov 23rd 2020 at 12:12:36 PM

Yeah. I can understand thumping a post that could start another TLP incident, but locking the thread seems a bit unnecessary. Especially since there's no moderator comment in the thread, and the thread was going along just fine until that post.

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#58: Nov 23rd 2020 at 12:14:16 PM

I agree. That was unnecessary and only attracts more attention to the draft.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#60: Nov 25th 2020 at 3:55:30 PM

Could you please decline the cut request for Headscratchers.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic Meta? I think such an action needs to be discussed more.

Karxrida The Unknown from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
The Unknown
#61: Nov 25th 2020 at 6:36:02 PM

Pretty sure Meta pages like that are no bueno.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition from The Void (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: Armed with the Power of Love
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#62: Nov 25th 2020 at 6:38:21 PM

The discussion should be here, but I think that thread's consensus was that Meta doesn't belong on Headscratchers.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#63: Nov 25th 2020 at 8:42:59 PM

Considering the page is still being edited, I think we should talk to whoever is editing it.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#64: Nov 29th 2020 at 9:03:23 PM

So, I'm curious about what the "don't import drama" rule actually entails. I'm asking for clarification.

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#65: Nov 29th 2020 at 10:04:38 PM

Mostly it refers to not continuing an argument from another site (like Twitter) on this website.

Link to TRS threads in project mode here.
kkhohoho Deranged X-Mas Figure from The Insanity Pole Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Deranged X-Mas Figure
#66: Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:37:22 AM

So a bunch of posts in the Economics thread talking about economic philosophy and Fighteer got thumped.

Fighteer, please tell me you didn't thump them because they were talking about you.

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Fighteer Lost in Space from The Time Vortex (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Lost in Space
#67: Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:44:40 AM

Wasn't me. Septimus evidently decided that political philosophy isn't on topic for the Economics thread, and I agree.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
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#68: Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:47:46 AM

Clearly we veered a little too far into the political side of things.

Optimism is a duty.
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Deranged X-Mas Figure
#69: Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:51:09 AM

[up][up]My bad.

But I hope you understand why that's the first thing that jumped to my brain.

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DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#70: Dec 3rd 2020 at 7:52:04 AM

Wait... Is it even possible for a mod to thump another mod? I thought mods were immune to stuff like that unless it's from an admin directly.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#71: Dec 3rd 2020 at 8:02:36 AM

Yes, they can thump each other.

Optimism is a duty.
Kevjro7 Susjection! Since: Jan, 2020
DivineFlame100 Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#73: Dec 3rd 2020 at 8:49:30 AM

Huh... I thought the staff ran on a hierarchy of sorts that made them immune to staff actions unless those actions came from a staff member with higher authority. I guess I'm just naive.

Edited by DivineFlame100 on Dec 3rd 2020 at 9:00:43 AM

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#74: Dec 3rd 2020 at 9:13:44 AM

Yeah, moderators can be thumped and suspended like any other troper. The last function is only used for testing, of course, but thumping is fair game.

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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands Since: Feb, 2014
Redmess
#75: Dec 3rd 2020 at 9:32:52 AM

And that's only fair, I think. Moderators should conform to the rules like everyone else, after all.

Optimism is a duty.

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