Idea Seeker
I'm the impatient sort too.
You can't kill art.
Team Rocket Boss.
Oh you naughty boy. 
Honestly, my bigger problem is that this outcome loses some punch since we've already done the "using the last embers of One For All" thing with Midoriya in Heroes Rising. So I guess it depends on how this'll be different. Being permanent? Sure, that'll hurt. But if this was the route we were gonna go, now I kind of wish that movie had ended differently.
That's my kneejerk reaction, though. Let's see how it plays out in full first.
(Also, I think the All Might shirt thing might be a tiny shout out to Koichi from Vigilantes, who has a running gag of being obsessed with All Might collectable shirts, and has to do with wearing them as his "costume" since he's not a hero. Not that its out of character for Midoriya to be knowledgeable of and wearing an All Might shirt, of course)
Edited by diddyknux on Apr 24th 2024 at 1:54:18 PM
Team Rocket Boss.
Has it ever been stated how All Might started merchandising his likeness?
Like, there seems to be a funny story behind that. And I feel All for One would be seething at all the All Might merch during his reign.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Well, most heroes do merchandising. But in Vigilantes, its shown that post his original showdown (not during the series, but in the backstory) with All For One, he uses his emaciated form to pose as All Might's "handler."
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Something like this?
Do a barrel roll!
Too old for this
Nice "on your left" moment.
Love how Sero flat-out denies that you need tragedies to become stronger (even more so since his powers make for the occasional Shout-Out to Spider-Man).
Still hoping Deku's depower is not permanent. Though right now the only way I see this happening would either be an Ass Pull like in Two Heroes or Shigaraki managing to get control of his body just long enough to transfer OFA (or another power) back to Deku.
Whatever your favourite work is, there is a Vocal Minority that considers it the Worst. Whatever. Ever!.
Team Rocket Boss.
I feel like the author is giving his own two cents on the whole canon event debate.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Lizard Metabolism
I don't even know what to call AFO now. AFOgaki? AKIRA reject? A Giant-Thorn-In-Everyone's-Backside? No idea what's even going on in his head either; at this point, he really is just a giant final boss first and a character second.
...anyway, that's a lot of people. I was kind of hoping it'll be just 1A, but it's nice to see some of the people who were out of it earlier, including people who fought the original AFO. Mina's skin is still slightly discolored. And hey, even Shoto and Endeavor made it (although they both look completely out of it).
So... losing OFA would definitely be a stinker. Losing a part of it would probably be fine, but if the entire thing is gone by the end of it, then... yeah, the whole "this is how I became the greatest hero" thing doesn't really hold water, does it? Oh, sure, AFO is probably the single worst foe Deku would face and he became a symbol that inspired the people in Japan and around the world, but... you know. He's only sixteen. He's not even an adult - and he's already supposed to stop, right here? Right now?
How do lizards fly?
Imagine if Deku somehow ended up with the Overhaul Quirk.
Submarine Chomper
I would be fine with him losing OFA for good.
You don't need a quirk to be a "hero", that kind of thinking is flawed from the start.
Sure, you need a quirk to become a "superhero" but that's a different thing all together.
At the very start, Izuku asked "Even without a quirk, can I still become a hero?"
And now we'll get the answer in the form of "Yes, yes you can."
"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."
Team Rocket Boss.
Exactly! That's why I'm fine with Deku losing all his powers if it comes down to it, even serving as an inspiration to all of Japan and the rest of the world as a super hero would be a fitting finale to Deku's tale.
The more important part to me is that Deku was entirely willing to sacrifice it, that's what a hero does. If he's going to selfishly cling to his power, then he really doesn't deserve it.
But really, I'm expecting Deku to still have some of his powers left. Maybe the shadow whip, smoke, and super strength at most, since I fully expect MHA to continue at some point.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 26th 2024 at 11:55:19 PM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
His future as a hero might be to go back to Horikoshi's initial concept for the protagonist, where he would stay Quirkless and be a hero through gadgets and support items.
Which means that Met Hatsume is one of the most important characters in the story!... And Melissa too, I guess.
Team Rocket Boss.
Mei: WHO THE HELL IS MET HATSUME?!
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
I also like to think that Deku will have a position as UA teacher if he wants to, after completing his studies. It would be another way to follow Allmight's footsteps. (And he'd probably be better at teaching than Allmight)
Anyway, since the transition from single load-bearing hero to collective heroism is my favorite part of the series, I've been loving these chapters. I just hope my other favorite part (Shigaraki and his desire to be a hero for villains) will have a good conclusion as well. I mean, the fact that Shigaraki's spirit is still there, inside All for One, constantly screaming, will definitely have some kind of payoff.
Edited by Cozzer on Apr 26th 2024 at 8:25:57 PM
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
I mean, that conclusion might be Shiggy inspiring more people to kill everyone everywhere like he tried to do.
Because right now, that's what being a hero to villains means.
I hope it means that, if he gets through this alive, maybe he'll one day to be able to work with people who slipped through the cracks (and perhaps Deku and others will help him if he's willing to take that help), but at this point, Shiggy is pretty deep in destroy everyone.
One Strip! One Strip!
Hmm, I think Shigaraki was forced by Deku's invasive spiritual therapy to acknowledge that his desire to destroy everything is just a front. That said, I really don't see him coming out of this alive.
I think it will be more about leaving behind a legacy, for the new generation of heroes to be aware of how and why villains exist. And also probably getting the last word over All for One.
I do love afo going man I dont feel anything when seeing a bunch of extras to take down and that makes me feel sad. He really did care about yoichi in his own twisted way
To be a Master
I wonder if AFO vestige's death would be far different from his original death. Rather than screaming in denial as he suffers an Undignified Death, AFO's vestige just goes "Well, I'm dead. I don't care anymore since I have no purpose left."
Looks like his Vestige will probably get a proper conclusion involving his Brother now that he’s dead due to sacrificing himself. Whereas the original was just obsessed with his dream not being fulfilled, his Quirk shows that for all his big talk the thing he actually cared more about is his brother(which also ties back into how Shigaraki is also into Self-Serving Memory).
Getting a lot of Knives vibes from his Quirk Vestige.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Apr 26th 2024 at 7:13:49 AM
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Submarine Chomper
What AFO needs the most right now is not a fight but a funeral.
For real.
He's literally just a yurei/("ghost") now. Which doesn't even have any strong attachments to the living world anymore now when his brother's soul isn't in it.
And he needs both to be told how at this point, the only chance he has left to reunite with his brother is by meeting up with him in the afterlife (and I have no doubt that Yoichi would be waiting there at the gates for him, even after everything that has happened, just so they can pass through them together as a family.) while also receive the proper funeral rites so his soul can pass on to get there.
I just realized when thinking about it this way, when All Might killed him, AFO never received any funeral rites so his spirit lingered in the living world instead, allowing him to "repossess his body" once fixed up by the doctor again, despite missing the upper half of its head.
I hope Izuku doesn't make All Might's mistake and instead, (I honestly can't believe I'm saying this...) "help" AFO accept reality and pass on to the afterlife willingly, which would also help Tenko as well by returning the body to him in the process.
Edited by Trainbarrel on Apr 26th 2024 at 5:10:25 PM
"If there's problems, there's simple solutions."
Deku has to kill AFO.
With kindness.
Vestiges have always been more like Bunreis than ghosts. A Japanese concept where a supernatural being creates another soul aspect of itself.
An example of this is the Gods Amaterasu, Susanoo, and Tsukuyomi, who spawned as deities from Izanagis nose and eyes when he cleaned himself. Or that Susanoo was once filled with so much hate he literally hate vomited a daughter in Amanozako into existence.
Edit: Basically thinking of them like ghosts isn’t apt because they exist as their own individuals when separated and the personality.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Apr 26th 2024 at 8:17:59 AM
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Oh can I hang out here now? Well I am an impatient sort.
Okay, so I'm completely fine with Deku being depowered since he had to do it to deprive All for One of his goal and get the advantage in the fight. A real hero is willing to make the personal sacrifices to save others, and Mirio got depowered to save Eri, it would be a disservice to him if Deku didn't do the same thing.
Who knows, maybe he'll get OFA back somehow or find some way to continue being a hero, but I'm fine if the series ends with him being depowered. I care more about how losing OFA will affect Deku TBH, than him being the world's greatest hero. That's already an idea that's poison.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.