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#2701: Apr 7th 2024 at 2:35:14 AM

That would require competent writing, something Rocksteady doesn't have.

I'll give Sweet Baby this, at least they tried to tie in black Deadshot with the multiverse stuff going on, Rocksteady just went "Oh yeah, he's black because he's the real Deadshot." without realizing how stupid that is.

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Cortez Since: May, 2009
#2702: Apr 7th 2024 at 3:08:01 AM

Multiverse remember? Didn't stop them from bringing in the Twinkler, I mean the Joker.

I would have preferred of they had used Martha Wayne Joker instead, make good use of the multiverse plot.

Or use Tangent Joker.

AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#2703: Apr 7th 2024 at 8:15:59 AM

If they bring in a Batman, imagine if they use Thomas Wayne Batman from Flashpoint.

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#2704: Apr 7th 2024 at 9:22:23 AM

[up][up] WHY DID U SAY THAT NAME?!!!

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#2705: Apr 7th 2024 at 10:20:25 PM

[up][up][up][up]I think they have competent writting, the formar just clearly blindside them

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#2706: Apr 8th 2024 at 8:51:46 AM

@Darthtagnen: Here Gaming bolt has an article lining out the leaks rumour of season 5 being the end

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#2707: Apr 8th 2024 at 4:56:40 PM

I just realize a problem with the Deadshot retcon is that the character becomes defined by it.

The Deadshot Argus tapes from what I hear are all about Fakeshot suffering imposter syndrome and an existential crisis over the true identity of Deadshot.

So instead of giving some interesting tidbits about his past and personality, his character is entirely consumed by a dumbass mystery.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 8th 2024 at 4:57:00 AM

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#2708: Apr 8th 2024 at 5:13:09 PM

So how are they going to deal with the other Brainiacs if the last update is season 5 and there are 11 left to kill?

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#2709: Apr 8th 2024 at 5:20:16 PM

Will they even get halfway there?

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Ego-Man25 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#2710: Apr 8th 2024 at 5:27:49 PM

I get that no company wants there to be spoilers, but why not call the game Suicide Squad: Kill The Braniac? The exact same amount of syllables, it's more honest about what you're actually gonna do, and it actually sounds kinda interesting.

And before anyone chimes in, I know the actual reason why: Marketability. It's obvious the title they had would spring up more instant attention, so they went for it, but geez, hindsight's a GIGANTIC bitch...!

Edited by Ego-Man25 on Apr 8th 2024 at 7:04:56 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#2711: Apr 8th 2024 at 6:54:04 PM

Also, we've ALREADY had a better game about killing Brainiac.

Injustice 2.

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TomWithoutJerry Since: Dec, 2023
#2712: Apr 8th 2024 at 7:52:44 PM

Brainiacs: We must go now. Colu needs us.

The Brainiacs all died on their way to Colu.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#2713: Apr 8th 2024 at 7:54:33 PM

[up][up][up] Marketability is the total bane of this game.

All it amounts to is making the most safe and utterly bland choices possible. Its why the line-up is so milquetoast, Arkham Harley is completely retconned to make her the modern anti-hero version, Deadshot gets race-lifted to synergize with the Ayer film, and just generally having no d-list characters in the roster at all.

People keep justifying Harley's inclusion because "without her the Squad wouldn't sell" and honestly like with Batman and the Justice League the team should be able to thrive without having to be obsessively tethered down by one character.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 8th 2024 at 7:54:44 AM

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#2714: Apr 8th 2024 at 8:20:39 PM

The lack of character development for Arkham Harley has always been one of its biggest weaknesses.

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#2715: Apr 8th 2024 at 8:25:11 PM

because "without her the Squad wouldn't sell"

Never mind of course that it's not selling well with Harley...

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#2716: Apr 8th 2024 at 9:06:07 PM

[up][up] She's supposed to be a bad guy for Batman to punch. I don't particularly think she needs character development there. Let her stay evil.

It's not like Two Face or Penguin got character development.

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Freshwater Since: Apr, 2023
#2717: Apr 8th 2024 at 9:24:54 PM

[up][up] and 4x[up]

I'm not a marketing executive, but I feel like that would be a huge red flag. Because, just off the top of my head I know that Superman used to have a successful live action series, an animated series, and two movies. The flash, green arrow, and Supergirl all had successful live action shows. The doom patrol is a cult classic. All of these characters are popular and have been enough and should be enough to sustain long term projects.

If the higher ups now only have faith in one or two of them (Batman and co)? That would make me think a lot of things and none of them are good. For example, it could mean that the studio no long knows how to use the property effectively or even worse the property is overall becoming less popular.

I feel like a hypothetical marketing executive would be able to see that long term this is a very bad sign.

Edited by Freshwater on Apr 8th 2024 at 9:26:12 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#2718: Apr 8th 2024 at 9:45:45 PM

The funny thing about Harley is from what I hear her current ongoing sells abysmally, and so are the rest of her books. She is no longer in the bubble she was 8 years ago where the character sold like gangbusters and can support an ongoing plus 5 miniseries.

Not to say she's unsellable, but more that if you want to sell her you have to put actual work into the character. You can't just write a story about Harley being trapped on a plane with Bane's farts (real actual story published) and expect people to be satisfied with that nonsense.

Which is a huge problem with the Batman brand or really Batman/Joker/Harley and whoever's lucky to get a book. DC gives them oodles of favoritism and protection, willing to greenlit anything with them no matter if they underperform or fail to sell in some cases because of the merchandising sales.

From what I hear Harley does sells a ton of merch, being their most marketable character in that sense, so DC is under the idea that just because people buy Harley mugs and shirts that means there will be an automatic turn out for anything she appears in.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 8th 2024 at 9:46:49 AM

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AFan Since: Nov, 2022
#2719: Apr 8th 2024 at 9:53:08 PM

You know what's an issue that isn't brought up much? There's no weight to the Squad killing the League. Outside of the individual members celebrating their rival's deaths, there's no big moment where the Squad goes "Holy shit, we just killed The Flash! We just killed The Flash!" Or "We just fucking killed Superman! Go us!" Instead they just go about it like it's no big deal that they just killed the biggest hitters in the universe. The only death given any of that is Wonder Woman's, the one that they don't kill ironically.

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#2720: Apr 9th 2024 at 12:17:48 AM

[up]Probably because indeed, they are scum so they just dont care.

[up][up]the issue is Batman exist a sort of self contain universe that can survive well without DC while the oposite rarely happens.

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#2721: Apr 9th 2024 at 12:23:56 AM

Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League's reputation and dignity.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#2722: Apr 9th 2024 at 12:40:59 AM

[up][up] And this is why DC struggles. Neglecting all their franchises and constantly falling back to Batman.

They do not spread out and keep a balanced roster, they instead put all their eggs in one basket which is a bad thing.

[up][up][up] You'd think Boomerang would make a bigger deal that he finally killed his longtime nemesis.

Edited by slimcoder on Apr 9th 2024 at 12:45:37 PM

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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2723: Apr 9th 2024 at 12:42:35 AM

Even the Batman piggybank isn't doing so well.

The Batman couldn't make a billion dollars.

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Smoker130 Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#2724: Apr 9th 2024 at 3:44:40 AM

I feel like a hypothetical marketing executive would be able to see that long term this is a very bad sign.
A executive don't think long term. They can only see 3 month back and plan 3 up to month forward. And not 3 months solid, at that, only what time remains until the end of the current 3-months block.

dcutter2 Since: Sep, 2013
#2725: Apr 9th 2024 at 3:49:26 AM

Considering games, movies and shows, take years to develop that seems like an exaggeration.


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