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FOFD Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#1226: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:24:16 AM

I didn't do it [lol]

Omni-Man wouldn't be the Final Boss of an Invincible game if it didn't just cover the first story arc

I mean, do we really think this game isn't here to encourage people to watch the show, and won't be based off the show's first season?

Kill La Kill IF is probably the first time a video game adaption of a popular series decided to do a completely new story arc as the main premise.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 18th 2024 at 10:24:55 AM

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#1227: Apr 18th 2024 at 7:30:27 AM

Why would the game be an advertisement for the show when the audience it’s going to be appealing to is the fans of the show?

Also there’s plenty of series that have had their game adaptations be original stories rather then a retelling of a pre existing arc.

immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#1228: Apr 18th 2024 at 9:12:56 AM

In regards to X-Men 97 and Invincible getting comparisons earlier, I don't see any serious rivalry going on. They're both shining examples of how great the superhero genre can be and at the same time while they may have a little overlap here and there, they tackle very different themes and aspects of superheroes. X-Men has themes of futurism, bigotry, cycles of violence, spirituality, family and community, etc.. Invincible is more themes of morality, responsibility, power and it's misuse, the clash between freedom and law, imperialism, etc.. There's occasional use of similar themes, but for the most part they're very different beasts.

I suppose another way to put it is that Invincible is a superhero story first and foremost, while X-Men is more a cyberpunk/biopunk horror story that just happens to utilize superhero tropes. Neither is really stepping on the others' toes, even when they pull from some of the same idea pools like having more morally ambiguous takes on superheroes or brutal violence.

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#1229: Apr 18th 2024 at 12:24:44 PM

Yeah, I feel like the release of X-Men and Invincible overlapping one another was purposeful but I don’t know by which party. Regardless, it’s making Disney and Marvel look bad and rightfully so. is just confusing because I've been hearing nothing but effusive praise for X-Men 97. I have no love lost for Disney and haven't seen that show, but claims that Invincible is somehow making it look bad are really out of nowhere.

I could get an argument that they collectively make other works look bad, because collectively they are kinda similar. A time-capsule (Invincible being a fairly close adaptation of a comic started in 2003 and X-Men a continuation of a 90's cartoon) that still shows what people can do with both established and new characters, X-Men having decades of baggage it's building off of and Invincible running off the fact the characters are new.

Edited by Larkmarn on Apr 18th 2024 at 3:27:49 PM

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TerraCondor Since: Dec, 2022
#1230: Apr 18th 2024 at 12:31:59 PM

I do wonder if (Vague Comic Spoilers) people will accuse a moment from Invincible War as being a rip-off of a certain part of X-Men '97.

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#1231: Apr 18th 2024 at 12:39:34 PM

[up] That's actually the reason I made this post earlier in the thread.

Gambit in both comics and the animated X-men predates Rex, but Rex's sacrifice came first in the comics. Unfortunately, many will probably assume that this series ripped offf 97, because they saw 97 first.

So there's gonna be an undercurrent of Rex's sacrifice just being a rehash....which actually works perfectly for a No-Respect Guy like Rex. Even in his final moments, he's not allowed to shine.[lol]....sad

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#1232: Apr 18th 2024 at 12:42:00 PM

Assuming anyone remembers that 97 moment in another two or four or six years that it takes Invincible to get to it.

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#1233: Apr 18th 2024 at 12:45:29 PM

How far away from the Invincible War are we?

Like, if we take what they've covered in the comics in the show already, what would we say is next and how long until that gets us to the war?

There's also the Viltrumite War as well, which I believe comes first.

We also need the costume switch and Powerplex.

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immortaleditor Since: Aug, 2023
#1234: Apr 18th 2024 at 1:07:53 PM

I would expect the Invincible War is about maybe a season or two away.

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#1235: Apr 19th 2024 at 8:32:22 PM

Why would the game be an advertisement for the show when the audience it’s going to be appealing to is the fans of the show?

Well

  • because that's a pretty common pattern for nearly every form of media out there right now, especially among anime/comic video games
  • because having synergy with the most visible part of a franchise boosts sales.
  • because fans of the show are not automatically fans of the comic, and more people know Invincible for the show than the comic book (this thread is an example)
    • people who play the game but didn't watch the show will likely be more interested in following the show's plot

I've been playing enough "the movie the game" type video games and fighting games based off popular recent anime to feel confident that the latest game is usually a billboard.

Also there’s plenty of series that have had their game adaptations be original stories rather then a retelling of a pre existing arc.

Ten bucks the Invincible game will largely be about Season 1 of the show with maybe some DLC that hints at characters from Season 2 or later in the comic. I would be surprised at their ambition if it weren't.

Edited by FOFD on Apr 19th 2024 at 11:49:25 AM

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#1236: Apr 19th 2024 at 11:00:00 PM

I've read the comic up to issue #80 or so and I just gotta say: I am not certain they can fit Invincible War into one season. It's 16 issues between the end of Season 2 and that whole kerfuffle. Also, I really hope they worked out the legal issues with the other Image characters because some of those cameos were fire.

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#1237: Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:23:54 PM

Documents found on a North Korean server suggest US studios may have unknowingly outsourced animation work, including 'Invincible'

Massive controversy seems to be brewing.

Edited by miraculous on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:24:05 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1238: Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:28:10 PM

How do you unknowingly outsource work?

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#1239: Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:30:19 PM

They sent it to south Korea to do it.... And than those people sent it to North Korea to do it.

Edited by miraculous on Apr 22nd 2024 at 1:31:26 AM

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#1240: Apr 22nd 2024 at 3:12:06 PM

Another possibility is the main studio outsource it to a studio in China that was secretly a North Korean front company.

I love the irony of North Korea helping animate an adult cartoon that was produced by one of the actors that made a movie that made fun of their supreme leader.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1241: Apr 23rd 2024 at 9:15:26 PM

Can Eve's powers change one form of energy to another?

Like, can you even Transmute energy? My knowledge of physics is too poor to figure it out for sure.

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#1242: Apr 24th 2024 at 6:49:35 AM

[up][up] Do you think NK even knew Rogen was involved?

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#1243: Apr 24th 2024 at 10:04:15 AM

[up] I dont think that's what the troper intended to say, just that it was an hilarious and ironic coincidence.

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#1244: Apr 24th 2024 at 2:20:27 PM

[up][up][up] Eve's powers really do not care about anybody's knowledge of physics. Transmuting energy is kinda how physics already work.

For Eve I think its more of a question whether she can visualize what she wants to do. Something like heating or cooling down an object without changing its physical form should be trivial. Focusing her attention on altering a beam of photons in a precise way she wants is a whole other question.

Edited by Adannor on Apr 24th 2024 at 12:20:42 PM

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#1245: Apr 24th 2024 at 3:27:39 PM

Didn’t the Atom Eve Special show she has an instinctive in-depth knowledge of atomic (subatomic?) physics?

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#1246: Apr 24th 2024 at 4:47:59 PM

The implication in her childhood is that she can literally see every atom inside a surface by default. She probably has a better understanding of atomic interaction than modern science does.

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#1247: Apr 24th 2024 at 9:10:05 PM

The only real limitation of her powers is that she can't directly change living things.

And even that limitation goes away when she's on the brink of death.

I've made a comparison to DC's Firestorm before. Atom Eve's actually more powerful, since she has an innate understanding of the physics needed to use her powers properly. DC's Firestorm didn't have that. The only reason the original Firestorm could use his powers at all was because one part of the Fusion Dance that is the Firestorm Matrix was a physics professor.

Edited by M84 on Apr 25th 2024 at 12:12:06 AM

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#1248: Apr 24th 2024 at 11:19:34 PM

She can change living things, we see her grow plants, she can't change animals however like when she tried turning the squirrel into a dog.

She probably could save more lives if she used her natural intuition of molecules to become a chemist rather than punching mooks or growing random crap here and there.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1249: Apr 25th 2024 at 6:38:37 AM

I mean, while she didn't become a chemist, she was trying to find other uses for her powers.

The incidents with the Apartment in San Francisco and Killcanon kinda put an end to that.

There's probably still ways she can help, but she hasn't caught on yet.

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