Never Live It Down Cleanup

That sounds more like Overshadowed by Controversy (and it indeed is on that page, I believe).

Found this on Barnyard, wanted to ask before I added it to the Animated Films page:

• Never Live It Down: Reviews both negative and positive love making fun of the fact the male cows have udders, which isn’t anatomically correct. At all.

(By the way, would this also apply to the television series?

Doesn't count. This is about character moments.

Wasn't male cows having utters an intentional choice? Mainly for the Rule of Funny.

Here are some on-page gems under Sonic the Hedgehog's examples:

• The Adventure-era games often get a lot of heat for adding lots of extra characters to the roster, to the exclusion of Sonic. Between Adventure and 06, only 6 new playable characters were added (Heroes and the much maligned 06 each only adding one each, the Adventure games each adding two), with all the rest of the cast coming from earlier Sonic games, playable or otherwise (or in Blaze the Cat's case, the 2D Sonic Rush series). This isn't even including all of the supporting NPCs featured in those games.
• The fanbase is often thought of as a poster child for a Broken Base in video games. They're either all small kids with poorly-made self-insert "original characters" with a knack for dirty or cringey fanfiction, or they're all a bunch of obsessed manchildren who think every tiny change has ruined Sonic. A perfectly normal, perfectly reasonable Sonic fan tends to be drowned out by the more extreme voices.invoked

The first one I'm iffy on, but the second one should go.

Edited by ccorb on Aug 14th 2020 at 8:50:39 AM

Both need to go.

Again, this is about character moments.

Are the examples on YMMV.Reddit acceptable? (Page is locked, so we'd have to go through the Locked Pages thread.)

At a glance, none of those are characters anyway, so we’ll have take it there.

Honesty, all of YMMV.Reddit really needs to be looked at. For one thing, Reddit is a website with thousands upon thousands of different subreddits, so there’s no distinct opinions among its user base.

There’s also references to now-banned subreddits such as r/sexwithhorses and r/watchpeopledie, as well as many references to r/shitredditsays, despite said subreddit being far less notorious nowadays.

Edited by jandn2014 on Aug 14th 2020 at 2:04:30 PM

And the page is locked, so maybe we should take it to another thread.

Maybe take that to the Websites cleanup.

Join me.

Honesty, I am starting to think that this should be taken to the TRS due to it sheer misuse alone. Can we get a wick check?

There's also Stock Parody Jokes, many of which repeat the character and forbidden meta-examples on Never Live It Down.

Edited by ccorb on Aug 23rd 2020 at 7:39:02 AM

On YMMV.Be More Chill:

• Never Live It Down: This is the show that Stephen Sondheim left at intermission.

This isn't about a character action and this only happened about a year ago. Permission to cut?

Yep.

• Many characters in Spongebob Square Pants are known for their misbehavior, but these stand out the most:
  • Mr. Krabs might as well be known for trying to drive Plankton to suicide in the episode "One Coarse Meal".
  • Mrs Puff is known for trying to murder Spongebob in "Demolition Doofus".
  • Squidward's most infamous moment may be when his toenail was ripped out when he dropped a chair on his foot in "House Fancy". Yeah, he's more of a Butt-Monkey than anything else. When he needs to be an antagonist, he has relatively few low points, but "Little Yellow Book" seems to be the most infamous, with Squidward reading Spongebob's diary right in front of him and laughing about it.
  • The Bikini Bottomites will always be remembered for their cruel actions towards each of the main characters, such as in "Stuck in the Wringer", when they vilify SpongeBob into a depression after the latter gets Made Out to Be a Jerkass.

These seem misuse as it fails to explain how these are unfairly overshadowing the rest of their character. Cut? Rework?

From YMMV.ET The Extra Terrestrial:

• Never Live It Down: Atari's Christmas Rush for the E.T. game soiled their name to the point where it eventually became impossible for them to fully recover their reputation, especially when the Crash allowed Nintendo to swipe their top spot for themselves (the game also affected the movie's reputation as well.)

This one's old enough to qualify for NeverLiveItDown.Real Life (it practically prevented Atari from becoming the video game juggernaut they once were), but should it be on a work's YMMV page?

Cut all of those examples since none of them explain how those moments unfairly overshadowed their character and just looks to be complaining. Plus the last example misuses Made Out to Be a Jerkass.

That sounds more like a NLID for Atari, not the specific game.

The ET example feels more like Overshadowed by Controversy than Never Live It Down, with the caveat that people on the Overshadowed By Controversy cleanup thread might disagree on whether "has the reputation for causing the Great Video Game Crash" counts as a controversy.

YMMV.Red Shoes And The Seven Dwarfs

• Never Live It Down: Because of its poor marketing, many people think the movie's basic message is "If you're fat, you're ugly", even though, and tragically enough, the movie itself takes the complete opposite stand.

Not a character.

Cut it. The Misaimed Marketing and Tainted by the Preview entries already cover what it's trying to say.

Could Buck from Chicken Little qualify for this trope? A lot of people seem to be fixated (to an unhinged degree) on him being hands off with Chicken Little and being self serving when it comes to him, accusing him of being outright abusive, while he is indeed Unintentionally Unsympathetic, people ignore that he does realize what's he's done and tries to be better for his son by the end of the film, like trying to protect his son from the aliens.

The Disney Twitter also recently posted a picture of Buck being loving to Chicken Little, but if you check the comments of that post, you'll find a lot of people really seem to reject that he could ever be a good parent, still latched on to what they think he is.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Sep 16th 2020 at 1:05:47 PM

Honestly I totally forgot about Buck's redemption and was going to add that to Misaimed Marketing, but that might not be applicable now that you've reminded me of that. (I'm still unlearning what I absorbed as a former The Mysterious Mr. Enter viewer, I guess.) With that in mind, I'd say it counts since people don't even care about his redemption (though that may be due to debate over how well-done that scene is), though a similar idea is covered under Ron the Death Eater as well.

Edited by mightymewtron on Sep 16th 2020 at 12:23:16 PM