Per Ask The Tropers, this thread will be used to reduce the number of old, poorly written drafts on the Trope Launch Pad. We don't want to discuss on the drafts themselves because that will bump them and mix them with active proposals.
Sandbox for the project: Trope Launch Pad Discard Project
Sandbox for discarded drafts but viable ideas: Trope Idea Salvage Yard
The first sandbox page above contains drafts proposed in the thread that are still pending and drafts that we've decided to leave alone, either with no action or a bump.
The second sandbox page is for awful drafts but viable ideas. According to moderators, badly written but interesting/tropeworthy drafts should remain on the TLP. Rather than allow low-effort drafts to clog TLP, though, the salvage yard was opened to keep just the ideas behind them, in one place.
On this thread, we will mention which drafts we think are unworkable, add enough bombs, and discard (nuke) them. Discarding requires at least 5 bombs. Among the features of "unworkable" drafts:
- There have been no edits for a very long time, or at all
- The draft is low-effort, containing atrocious spelling and grammar and/or little to no examples, e.g. NEVER saw THAT coming (!), Nut-Chuks
- The draft was seemingly created so the sponsor could complain
- The topic is People Sit on Chairs, Too Rare to Trope, a search query created by mistake, etc. and therefore not tropeworthy
- The topic is already sufficiently covered by one or more tropes or is a duplicate of a better-written TLP draft
- The draft is problematic in other ways, such being closely tied to a page that has been historically problematic, e.g. Fetish Fuel, Complete Monster
- There's no discussion currently occurring in the comments to improve the proposal
If we decide to discard a draft after discussion via this thread, whoever does so must provide the discard reason in the comment section of the draft, for transparency's sake. Those looking at the discards section won't think it was nuked for no reason.
Also, check out the sister project, Trope Adoption Drive, where good drafts put Up for Grabs or abandoned can be grabbed, given a bit more improvement, and launched.
Edited by Tabs on Mar 24th 2022 at 12:02:43 PM
"Banished" as an explanation for The Exile getting exiled? I think the latter covers it. It should provide the circumstances of banishment.
Contortionist is a trope.
Edited by Tabs on Mar 7th 2019 at 1:15:48 AM
Whoa, Stream of Consciousness was one of my old ones, heh.
Well, clearly you aren't one of the tropers who created a draft and just left the site forever. :) I see that Malady's grabbed it.
I want to hand it back then... 'Cause I've got too many drafts already.
But we need to handle those wicks.
Edited by Malady on Mar 7th 2019 at 2:44:22 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576I nuked it because a couple weeks had passed with no response from the OP, and it didn't appear substantial enough to continue pursuing. Apologies if I should've waited longer or if anyone wanted to work on it.
Nah. I understand. I was just noting that. To be honest, we'd be better off starting over.
Contains 20% less fat than the leading value brand!It's no big deal Xfllo, I don't think we'd have gotten anywhere by waiting anyway.
Stream Of Consciousness is a good trope, just needs some love.
I came across Banished in my travels, I just didn't mention it because I honestly wasn't sure what to make of it.
Toss Triple Jointed.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessAnyone good enough with Inner Monologue to be able to sort through SteamOfConsciouness's 17 wicks, and change the ones that fit another trope?
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576By that, you mean de-wick Stream Of Consciousness?
After a quick look, none can be linked to any other trope and can be safely removed.
Edited by Tabs on Mar 7th 2019 at 8:48:21 AM
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https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=19zv2ej5w10axq0tjoj9gddj CatCall advance— this seems like it could be something trope-shaped, but the examples and description are lacking (and I don't know how plentiful other examples are). Also, the name is terrible. Tentatively voting to bomb.]] -
Dramatic Bite — the idea definitely has substance, and a cursory search reveals that it hasn't been created in the last eight years. But the description needs work, the examples are mostly zero-context, and the image is non-illustrative. Thoughts? The concept is decent but the draft needs considerable work. -
Brief Genre Outing — seems covered by Small Reference Pools as noted in the comment. Bombed.]] -
Love and Lust — covered by another, better-developed TLP. Bombed, ready to nuke. -
President God — if I understand this correctly, it's authority figure typecasting. Bombed, ready to nuke.
Edited by mahidevrans on Mar 8th 2019 at 11:21:02 AM
I think it's too rare to trope. Bombing for the atrocious writing, anyway.
Dramatic Bite is Milking the Giant Cow + Mundane Made Awesome.
That's Where They Want You To Go: Low-effort, no further edits, sponsor inactive. Two comments below suggest existing tropes cover this.
Power-off Penalty: This is covered by Anti-Rage Quitting.
SuperPowerThief: This is Power Parasite. That trope also covers stealing powers using technology/artifacts, so this draft is redundant.
Never Trust the Internet: So broad it's meaningless, Never Trust a Trailer covers the concept, and according to the last comment, this draft was specifically created to bash a creator, or one of his works.
Character resembles actor: Is this is a subtrope of Celebrity Paradox? I can think of an example to add to that draft, but three is still not enough.
All books begin in the middle: Lacks examples, last edit 2012. I believe this is adequately covered by The Law of Conservation of Detail.
Bait And Twist: This is Meta Twist, or a subverted twist.
Made with Love: This is chairs to me. Let me know what you think.
popular but unmarketable This is covered by Mainstream Obscurity well enough, and even if it isn't, no one's grabbed it after it was abandoned in 2011.
Folklore Fairy Folk: Covered by Fantastic Sapient Species Tropes.
Selectively Smart: This is Ditzy Genius down to "lacking common knowledge in other fields".
This Needs Salt: Plenty of comments describing the draft's issues, no edits after draft creation and no examples.
Five Things Fic: This is "Five Things" Fic.
Creator Favorite: This is Creator's Favorite.
She Kissed Me: This is Smooch of Victory. Bombs away.
Edited by Tabs on Mar 8th 2019 at 1:26:32 AM
Bombs away.
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Gratuitously Fuchsia Things — Tropes Are Not General. Bombed. -
Too Sad to Live — snowclone title, covered by a plethora of other tropes. Bombed. -
Wear Your Seatbelt — Pointless. Bombed. -
Information Needs to Be Understood — covered by the Tips Worksheet. Bombed, ready to nuke. -
Always A Zebra — covered by Televisually Transmitted Disease. Bombed. -
Fanon Immigrant — Troper Tales based, stub, no feedback. Bombed. -
Critical Stop — terrible draft, concepts covered elsewhere. Bombed. -
Good Lover Bad Cook — seems Too Rare To Trope, not to mention a stub. Bombed. -
Canon Vagabond — wildly varying examples, the gist seems to be covered by Transplant and related inter-show tropes. Bombed. -
Pop Psychotic — Too Rare To Trope stub. Bombed. -
Double the Angle — I honestly don't understand but it's probably covered by Triang Relations. Bombed. -
Foot High Robot — "Robot's with size measured in inches/Centimeters". Yeah, no. Bombed. -
All Poetry is Lyric — Insubstantial. Bombed. -
Wet Streets — People Sit On Chairs. Bombed.
That's enough scraping the bottom of the barrel for tonight...
Edited by mahidevrans on Mar 8th 2019 at 11:22:37 AM
Damn, nice draft finds everyone. I'll get my nukes ready.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessA few more that are now nuke-able.
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Bugs are Fair Game — What Measure Is a Non-Cute?. Bombed. -
Accidental Suicide — concepts covered by Death Seeker, Too Dumb to Live, and others. Not to mention "accidental suicide" is kind of an oxymoron. Bombed. -
Make It Look Like a Suicide — Never Suicide. Bombed. -
Index in the Clouds — Index in the Sky. Bombed. -
Obnoxious Mariachi Band — Too Rare To Trope, only one example with context, stub. Bombed.
Edited by mahidevrans on Mar 8th 2019 at 11:23:42 AM
Just one tiny humble request for bombs:
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Genius Billionaire Playboy Philanthropist— Insufferable Genius and/or Brilliant, but Lazy + Uncle Pennybags and/or Wealthy Philanthropist + Dude Magnet / Chick Magnet + brooding Byronic Hero + Parental Abandonment + the title is a quote and to me it sounds like a hilarious play on Ninja Pirate Zombie Robot
The description just mixes all those together, but the characters listed are all as different as day and night. Or as day and... I don't know, pigeon.
EDIT: Discarded.
Edited by XFllo on Mar 8th 2019 at 2:33:14 PM
I blew it up! I blew it all up!
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Lavalaunch — It's covered by Rump Roast but could stand on its own if someone wanted to shepherd it. Probably not worth splitting, though. -
The Shanghai Ground / Pointe Blank Range — Underdogs Never Lose has this one. -
Second Best — Even Better Sequel but more specific. -
Interview Exposition — Might be valid, but never got any examples other than the initial one. -
Stock Fellow Inmates — Again, might be valid but never got examples. Could also be subject to the same problems as Five-Man Band and such.
Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 2:08:45 PM
Check out Framing Device for Interview Exposition examples, I'd think, but I'm not grabbing...
But, the word "Interview" got me 10 hits with a Find.
Edited by Malady on Mar 8th 2019 at 8:32:25 AM
Disambig Needed: Help with those issues! tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13324299140A37493800&page=24#comment-576Bombed all. I see Stock Fellow Inmates getting shoehorns and then a quick trip to the TRS if it launches.
Nice new avatar, Warjay. Not as great as Berrenta's, but it's up there.
Edited by Tabs on Mar 8th 2019 at 8:54:43 AM
Nuked Lavalaunch as TSBMS.
Contains 20% less fat than the leading value brand!Lol, thanks Tabs. I prefer mine because Zebstrika is my fave :P
Anyway, I actually forgot to go on my bombing spree last night, so I'm playing catch up. Whatever is ready to toss I'm tossing.
Alright, tossed my bombs, went on a nuking spree: Brief Genre Outing, Cat Call Advance, Power Off Penalty, Five-Things Fic, She Kissed Me, Canon Vagabond, Interview Exposition, Super Power Thief and Stock Fellow Inmates all tossed.
Edited by WarJay77 on Mar 8th 2019 at 1:59:00 PM
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure PurenessBombed for Yes, We DO Have This One
- Inconspicious Infamous Person: Recognition Failure
- Banished: Persona Non Grata and/or The Exile.
- Triple Jointed: Contortionist and Abnormal Limb Rotation Range
- Power-off Penalty: Anti-Rage Quitting
- SuperPowerThief: Power Parasite
- Bait and Twist: Meta Twist
- Made with Love: Insubstantial Ingredients
- Five Things Fic: "Five Things" Fic
- Creator Favorite: Creator's Favorite.
- She Kissed Me: Smooch of Victory and/or Motivational Kiss
Bombed and nuked for Yes, We DO Have This One
- Dramatic Bite: Milking the Giant Cow + Mundane Made Awesome
- Character resembles actor: Adam Westing, Actor Allusion, Celebrity Paradox, and Ink-Suit Actor.
- Always a Zebra: Televisually Transmitted Disease
Additional bombing
- Never Trust The Internet: So broad it's meaningless, Never Trust a Trailer covers the concept, and according to the last comment, this draft was specifically created to bash a creator, or one of his works.
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Fuzzy Cam — It's just "The picture is out of focus". Might work as a super trope if there were a lot of blurry image tropes, but I don't think there's enough. - The Turnaround — No effort. Probably too rare too trope.
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Slow Moving Menace — The Slow Walk, Ominous Walk, Advancing Boss of Doom. -
Mommy Makes it Worse — My Beloved Smother + Screening the Call -
Mastery of Earning Villainism — I... I just dunno. I can't figure out what the OP was even going for.
Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 6:06:47 AM
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First Time Slow — Bullet Time but more specific. -
Assembly Montage — not really distinct from A-Team Montage. -
Fractional Height — Too rare to trope, I think. Height Angst could cover what there is. - Straight To The Rematch — Might work. But so many works have previous conflict in the backstory that it might become unwieldy to have examples.
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Hollywood Texting — Might have been valid when it was proposed. Now that autocorrect is ubiquitous and cell phone coverage is closer to universal, it's chairs.
Edited by DracMonster on Mar 8th 2019 at 4:07:03 AM
Banished - I don't know if we have this one. Banishment Tropes?Triple Jointed - Not sure what the meaning is.Edited by Brainulator9 on Mar 10th 2019 at 2:08:44 PM
Contains 20% less fat than the leading value brand!