Big "Big Bad" clean-up project

Big Bad Wannabe does seem to mistake Big Bad for "worst villain", which is probably a problem but I digress.

Well, he does have a Big Bad entry on his page as well, which I think is not all that accurate either.

Free to remove?

Yeah, definitely.

Sasuke is not the Big Bad of Naruto.

Found this entry on Characters.Ratatouille (history can be found here):

• Big Bad Ensemble: Chef Skinner and Anton Ego are the two main antagonists of Ratatouille because Chef Skinner drove the plot, he's known to be the main source of conflict before Anton Ego had a more prominent role in the final, he's the film's main threat, he's more of a direct threat, he's role is more terrifying, he's the one with the far more prominence (Anton Ego is mostly an overarching antagonist aka shadow antagonist), he's Remy's most personal archenemy and main threat, he has far more screen time than Anton Ego (Anton Ego appeared in the opening sequence and the final and that's mostly it), he was never Anton Ego's minion or right-hand, he's a villain, he didn't redeem himself, he does continue to serve as the primary antagonistic force throughout the entire film, he does lay the foundation for the restaurant's eventual closing (namely calling in a health inspector), he traps Remy with plans to force the rat chef into becoming his business partner and he's defeat ended the direct plot and Anton Ego is the one who puts the restaurant in place with his last words, he's the cause of Gusteau's death, he's responsible for the restaurant's downfall, he's the reason why Chef Skinner has his own restaurant, he's the film's biggest threat, more dangerous threat, greater threat and more of an intimidating threat, Skinner's level of true importance in the narrative and overall threat is significantly reduced once he's ousted from the restaurant after Linguini discovers the truth about him being Gusteau's son and legal heir and subsequently claims his inheritance, Skinner is reduced to a minor nuisance compared to the real threat to Linguini's success, he wants to break Linguini's family name and strength too, he's taken more seriously, he's willing to close down the restaurant if Linguini doesn't fix him a good dish, he's the main antagonist of Linguini's storyline, he's the final target, the real climax is Remy cooking up to Anton's standard and proving him wrong on his disdain for Gusteau's philosophy; Remy's rat family even ensures Skinner's attempts to sabotage the efforts at cooking a meal to suit Anton's standard are thwarted quicky while also likewise ensuring that the health inspector's work at exposing the apparent rat infestation to the appropriate people is delayed long enough for Linguini and Remy to cook and serve the all-important meal, his redemption ended the film's main conflict and he narrated the stories' ending.

Thoughts about what to do here?

Edited by gjjones on Dec 13th 2023 at 12:53:54 PM

I sent the writer a Wall Of Text notifier a little while ago, but obviously they didn't do anything about it.

I removed Hades' entry from Kid Icarus: Uprising since, while the overall main villain, there are parts in the story where an equally huge threat he has nothing to do with takes center-stage, making him a Plot-Irrelevant Villain for half the game.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Feb 5th 2024 at 4:28:38 AM

The Big Bad Wannabe entry I put up on Naruto's Naruto - Obito Uchiha page got removed.

Granted, I could've made the entry longer (and will be happy to do so, if it get's approved), but I do not see how it was a trope misuse at all.

He get's build up as being Madara Uchiha, the Boogeyman of the entire Verse.....until it is revealed that he is not Madara at all, and that the real Madara not only came up with his Eye-of-the-Moon-Plan, but also groomed and manipulated Obito for most of his life.

Sure, Obito does try to break away from the plan, not wanting to revive Madara and planning to do the honours himself, but once Madara gets resurrected anyways, he is the first of the two to fall, and he spends the rest of the battle not only being verbally and emotionally abused by Black Zetsu, who tries to steal the Rinnegan from his dying body, but also broken by the revelation how Madara had a hand in the death of his childhood love and basically made him a tool.

He later proceeds to lose his life against Kaguya, the ultimate Big Bad of the Series, towards whose return he also unwittingly contributed.

I think he is pretty much a textbook example.

IDK why it was outright removed, but it was written as a ZCE. Tell us how he fits, not just that he does.

I'll be happy to provide a more detailed entry during the next days.