edited to add this information, since this is going to be a long clean-up
"Donald Trump, as with any other current political figure, should not be a subject of any trope example on the wiki, except:
- When the work in question specifically mentions the RL individual.
- When the entirety of the example has to do with the portrayal of that individual in the work.
- When the work is fictional.
All three of these must apply.
Alternatively:
- When the RL individual has a creative role themselves, such as writing or acting in a work. In this sense we give them no more nor less treatment then we would any other creator.
Additionally, please make sure to take out any examples of "Funny Aneurysm" Moment, Harsher in Hindsight, or Hilarious in Hindsight regarding these political figures. A political event that may be seen positively by some people may be seen negatively by others.
We're starting with the wicks to Donald Trump (There were 751 of them at the starting point of this count.)
Wicks have already been checked and cleared up to
2/14/17 Inherent in the System
Given the current political climate, talking about Donald Trump on this Wiki is a very sensitive topic and pretty much any comment on him could easily end up violating the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. I talked it over on Ask a Troper and a moderator gave me permission to start this topic. I feel it will be necessary to make sure any mention of him is safe and avoids politically charged or biased opinions. Right now, we need to stick to facts, not opinions.
Edited by SeptimusHeap on Jul 27th 2020 at 2:06:58 AM
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Yeah, trash that one. Homelander isn't a Trump parody. He's a parody of people like Richard Spencer.
Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 8th 2021 at 11:53:53 AM
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So I'm working on a work page for a You Tube series I'm into, and I wanna make sure these examples don't fall afoul of the ROCEJ considering the subject matter.
- Alternate Timeline: The aptly-named Trumpocalypse
scenario details a Bad Future in which then-president Donald Trump doesn't take kindly to the prospect of leaving office, to say the least.
- From Bad to Worse:
- Trumpocalypse: The former President refuses to step down from office and mobilizes the Citizen Militia to support him. Riots, explosions, and natural disasters start to spring up. Oh, and it also looks like he made off with the nuclear launch codes…
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Seems good enough. This is the Trump equivalent to a "Nazis win WWII" timeline, and we cover enough of those.
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They're addressing fictional scenarios specifically designated by the channel, so I don't think it'd be a problem.
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Accumulating Filibuster Counters
This example from Rushmore Refacement - Real Life:
- Upon his election, Donald Trump immediately began asking how to add his face to the monument, posing for pictures with his face framed as a fifth face. Before his failed reelection bid then South Dakota governor Kristi Noem even presented him a four-foot-tall model of exactly that in a bid to replace his Vice President. His general lack of public approval and presidential misconduct ensured this would never happen.
I'm guessing this should go?
"The only thing which is certain, is that something will happen".
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Yes, but not for ROCEJ reasons. There was never a serious proposal to add Trump as a fifth face.
YMMV.Littlest Pet Shop 2012 S 2 E 18 Inside Job
- Hilarious in Hindsight: The elections in this episode unintentionally play out like some opinions of the 2016 U.S. Presidential Elections, with one candidate focused on spending money and making jabs while the other one initially plays nice but decides to play dirty later on. The school collectively settling on someone else mirrors some sentiments of voting third-party for U.S. President.
I believe this is the sort of thing/accusations that should be axed. Cut?
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I'm pretty sure most U.S. elections have been accused of fitting that sort of model. Hence why it's such a trope.
Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 20th 2022 at 1:00:32 PM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
So if most elections fit the example, should it be cut as too common/inevitable and thus general?
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Yes, it should.
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Accumulating Filibuster Counters
Example of Misaimed Fandom for Kingsman: The Secret Service is a Trump shoehorn, and appears to be discussing a video encouraging political violence:
- In 2019, a Donald Trump supporter superimposed Trump's face on Harry's in the church massacre scene. The churchgoers were edited to represent news publications. While apparently intended to show Trump as a badass, in the actual movie, Harry was Brainwashed and Crazy in the scene and is traumatized by the aftermath, before he is executed.
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It looks like a valid example that just happens to be political, though. It's not "Trump is bad!" but "this video misunderstands/misrepresents the context of the movie."
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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It's troping a fan edit rather than the work itself. That makes it a bit iffy even without the Trump stink bomb.
I had a dog-themed avatar before it was cool.
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It's a YMMV item, so mentioning fanworks isn't weird. It's describing how a fanwork misrepresented the work.
Edited by mightymewtron on Mar 21st 2022 at 11:29:52 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Examples for fanworks shouldn't be on the pages of the original work, though.
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But it's on the YMMV page, and isn't Misaimed Fandom usually listed on the YMMV page of the source work to which the fandom is reacting?
Edited by mightymewtron on Mar 22nd 2022 at 4:08:23 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
This is a title.
From Going Postal, under Harsher in Hindsight. Yeah or nay?
- For US tropers, the events of the 2016 presidential election and subsequent changes to the leadership of institutions regulating telecommunications make the events of this book a little bleaker. A businessman openly advertising himself as a conman with political ambitions (who’s based in Trump Tower)? A push towards greater industry control over the internet?
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Burn it to the ground.
Yikes, that's bad. Burn it.
YMMV.OKKO Lets Be Heroes S 1 E 47 Lets Not Be Skeletons
- Harsher in Hindsight: Both watching a crowd turn on K.O. for asking for regulations and cheery ending where the Congresswoman is able to legislate away the problem is brutal to watch knowing that someone who harassed children who advocate gun control would get elected to Congress after this episode aired.
The episode aired November 20, 2018, so I don't know which politician it's talking about.
I'd say cut as ROCEJ and such pro-gun persons are, like it or not, common enough they're being elected/influential is too regular a thing to count for Hindsight.
Any reason to keep it?
I agree with cutting. It doesn't seem to be particularly similar to later events, and even if we trimmed off the inflammatory parts, it has the usual "Hindsight" tropes problem of acting as if demands for gun control have never happened before.
This is a title.
From Sherlock S4 E2 "The Lying Detective"
- Trumplica: Culverton Smith is a vaguely defined businessman, implied to be a Corrupt Corporate Executive who often appears on posters, adverts and game shows, promoting his businesses. He's also a Serial Killer who has a compulsion to confess his murders due to the immense pride he takes in them and uses his Villain with Good Publicity status to hide his true nature from the public, being a philanthropist and charity runner. People watching the show thought Smith was based on Jimmy Savile but Steven Moffat has denied this, saying that Smith was based on the dark side of fame in general but especially Trump.
Yeah or nay?
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If the creator said that the character is based on Trump, then I think it's a valid example of a Trumplica (since that's what that trope is about).
This is a title.
In fact, Moffatt did not say he was based on Trump. Asked whether this was the case, Moffatt replied, "Only in the sense of a general disquiet about how celebrity seems to erase all other sins — in that sense, I suppose, it's about the rise of celebrity." "So I think the idea is that celebrity allows you to transgress in ways that normal human beings are not allowed to." [1]
"What we were really going for was how a celebrity is protected by their fame." [2]
Culverton may be the same kind of person as Trump in Moffatt's eyes, but was not actually based on Trump any more than Homelander.
Edited by Eagal on Jun 22nd 2022 at 5:45:16 AM
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From The Boys (2019): Homelander.
Yeah or nay?
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders!