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#77: Sep 23rd 2016 at 2:40:54 PM

It so is.

Anyone know if John Wick inspired cosplay, like in conventions or Hallowe'en?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#78: Sep 23rd 2016 at 4:21:39 PM

I mean I wouldn't think so. I mean he's basically a bearded man in a nice suit. I guess someone could wear a suit and bring their beagle with them and claim to be cosplaying John Wick.

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#79: Sep 24th 2016 at 9:17:09 AM

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His beard is meant to emphasise his face so it looks like a skull.

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#81: Sep 24th 2016 at 9:45:20 AM

Yeah I noticed it when I watched it. His face is shaped like the upper half of a skull due the beard.

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#82: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:59:14 PM

[up]I noticed it when I got told about it. grin

I was too busy looking at him cutting down the world's supply of Russian mooks to study his face much.

edit

Here's more than you probably wanted to know about John Wick and his sartorial equipment - re. suits.

https://bamfstyle.com/2015/03/27/john-wick-suit/

edited 24th Sep '16 7:05:43 PM by TamH70

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#83: Sep 27th 2016 at 1:38:54 PM

As soon as I noticed that, I was telling pretty much everyone I could think of about it. Including posting it on the tropes page.

Because it's one of those things that I really loved about the movie, the little Show, Don't Tell moments that make perfect sense if you think about it, but if you don't, it's not like you feel like you're missing anything.

So yeah. I'm excited for a sequel, but I think all-in-all, I don't want a full-on franchise made out of it. The first movie was more or less perfection in my eyes... everything it does do, it did nearly flawlessly. And I cannot envision it maintaining such a high level of quality.

Incidentally, I cannot believe that until today the character page didn't have an entry for Daisy. I am ashamed.

edited 27th Sep '16 1:52:34 PM by Larkmarn

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#85: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:52:52 PM

Did I just see Keira Knightley dressed as the Joker in the middle of a group of armed guards?

Who is Wick hunting this time?

Lawrence Fishburne?

Oh it wasn't Keira Knightley. Sure looked like her in the first shot though.

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#86: Oct 8th 2016 at 1:14:07 PM

The teaser is very foggy about it, so we don't know who he's after. The official synopsis states:

Legendary hitman John Wick is forced back out of retirement by a former associate plotting to seize control of a shadowy international assassins' guild. Bound by a blood oath to help him, John travels to Rome, where he squares off against some of the world's deadliest killers

So basically someone wants to take over the Assassin Guild and Wick has to help him. It's unclear if that former associate is Winston or The Bowler King (Laurence Fishburne's character).

From what we know of Wick, it's most likely Winston, and Bowler King might be the main antagonist.

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higherbrainpattern Since: Apr, 2012
#87: Oct 8th 2016 at 5:38:58 PM

I thought the main antagonist was Ruby Rose's character.

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#88: Oct 8th 2016 at 6:34:59 PM

[up] Panel said Ruby was working for the mastermind.

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#89: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:07:19 AM

John has a new dog! :D

Oh no, John has a new dog. D:

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csw Since: Jun, 2012
#90: Oct 9th 2016 at 12:36:32 AM

[up] I believe it's the same dog as the one he rescued from the pound at the end of the first film.

I am looking forward to this oh so much. I hope they go into a bit more of the world - not everything, mind, but peel back some layers to reveal even more.

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#92: Oct 10th 2016 at 11:24:24 AM

I was pretty hype, then I saw Laurence Fishburne and got really hype.

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#93: Nov 9th 2016 at 5:24:38 AM

John Wick Eye for an Eye VR game shown off at ComicCon

It’s rare that video game adaptations of famous movies are that good, but I feel like John Wick was similar enough to a shooter that it could translate rather well – especially in VR. Payday developer Starbreeze is currently working on a full length John Wick VR game, called Eye for an Eye and it showed it off for the first time at last weekend’s New York Comic Con.

To give it it’s full title, John Wick Chronicles: An Eye for an Eye, the game puts you in the shoes of the legendary assassin, taking on a number of enemies in roomscale locations, with plenty of cover and a wide variety of matt black weapons to fire. Although there are nods to previous Starbreeze developments, this one is very much in tune with the John Wick universe, so there’s that gritty neo-noir feel to its art style and setting.

While it’s hard to get a real feel of what a virtual reality game is like, comments from developers and the public who tried it, seem to suggest that it’s a fun experience. While the graphics don’t look anything too special when viewed in a 2D video, from past experience with VR shooters, we can imagine that it looks pretty fantastic when you’re in there.

Although potentially this could be made compatible with the Oculus Touch, for now the game is only listed as supporting the HTC Vive.

Set for release in February alongside the new movie, John Wick: Chapter 2, Starbreeze’s VR take on the universe can be pre-ordered now and if you do so, you get a free copy of Payday 2 and a John Wick weapon pack.

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Kit Guru Says: This looks pretty fun. While it may turn out to be a location based wave shooter, if it captures the feel of John Wick, I’m more than ready go gun down some dog killers and those that protect them.

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#94: Dec 23rd 2016 at 4:41:32 PM

Also, they announced the names of Ruby Rose's (the mute female hitman) character: Ares.

This film just keeps getting better.

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#95: Dec 27th 2016 at 11:06:46 AM

Wait, seriously? Her name is Ruby Rose?

So, that's interesting. We had Charon in the original, now we've got an Ares. And Winston's actor refers to his character as a Titan (in the Classical Mythology sense) of the setting. I wonder if the actor was alluding to some information about the setting that wasn't made apparent to the audience.

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#96: Dec 27th 2016 at 6:50:58 PM

I swear we talk about that coincidence once every 3 months in the RWBY thread. Last I googled her Ruby Rose was either a model or a porn star. I'm guessing model all things considered.

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#97: Dec 27th 2016 at 7:01:26 PM

[up] Model, according to Wikipedia.

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#98: Dec 27th 2016 at 7:56:09 PM

[up][up][up] It could be a hint that this chapter's plot is gonna be a Whole-Plot Reference to one of the classical myths, or at least referencing a bare bones version of a myth.

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#99: Dec 27th 2016 at 8:35:45 PM

The classical mythology/religion motifs are pretty widespread throughout "John Wick", so I'm not surprised the sequel is keeping them up.

As mentioned the conscierge of the Continental Hotel is called Charon, the ferryman of the boat that travels the underworld, and he represents John Wick entering the criminal underworld. Charon's metaphor is stretched out by the fact the main currency in this "underworld" consists of golden coins much like the ones traditionally paid to Charon as a price for his boat trip in Greek mythology, which symbolically refers to how the characters traverse a world of death, being hitmen and all.

Winston is a "god of justice" type of guy whose job is to enforce the rules of nature in this death world.

Wick himself is referred to as "the Boogeyman"/"Baba Yaga", which isn't mythology but folklore, but still characters allude to him in borderline religious terms almost as if he's the actual grim reaper, something empathized by his skull-shaped face. Iosef and Kiril even share a dialogue that goes "You're afraid of the boogeyman? I'm not." "You should be." which directly preceeds John Wick arriving and butchering everything in his sight almost like an angry god smiting them down due Iosef's blasphemy.

Viggo and Iosef's relationship and dramatic arc (blood ties, idiot son's mistakes snowball into the father's downfall) echoes Greek mythology where gods having to deal with the stupidity of their sons is a running theme, as well as divine family relationships escalating otherwise fairly simple conflicts (like Wick just wanting to kill Iosef for having killed his dog and stolen his car. The movie's entire bloodbath is because he's Viggo's son).

The trailer for Chapter 2 keeps up the symbolism with a character named Ares, the Rome setting (i.e the heart of the Catholic Church, for example) and the choice of music being a remixed Gregorian chanting which vives off the "modern-day mythology" vibes.

So John Wick is basically a criminal mythology. The plot of the first film gives off shades of a divine retribution sort of deal (Iosef disrespected the God of Death, and he's now going to wipe out everyone for this blasphemy) while the second seems to be a Ragnarok-ish sort of thing where it's the twilight of the old gods, the Continental is at war.

There's a video detailing the mythology allusions but I can't find it.

edited 27th Dec '16 8:37:00 PM by Gaon

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#100: Dec 27th 2016 at 8:43:32 PM

Very well said, only one minor correction.

"Wick himself is referred to as "the Boogeyman"/"Baba Yaga","

That's not correct, John Wick is the guy who you send to kill the fucking boogeyman! :P


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