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One thing I've noticed is that for all how the page for They Might Be Giants claims them to be the unofficial official band of this wiki, there's relatively few people on this site who seem to ever reference them.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Mar 28th 2023 at 7:19:52 AM

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#20826: May 7th 2024 at 12:14:12 AM

I just get a vague monthly theme in mind and search relevant indexes for old, low-wick tropes.

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GastonRabbit Sounds good on paper (he/him) from Robinson, Illinois, USA (General of TV Troops) Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
#20827: May 7th 2024 at 6:13:43 AM

[up]For featured tropes that don't fit a specific theme, I usually use the Random Trope button to find a trope with a low wick count (not necessarily starving), though sometimes I've listed newer tropes that I already knew about, such as yesterday's featured trope being Ironically Disabled Artist, which I remembered because I participated in the 2021 TRS thread it was launched as part of the cleanup effort for (the one for Hook-Handed Pianist, which the current page image was moved over from). I mainly use indexes when I'm looking for a themed trope.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 7th 2024 at 8:17:28 AM

Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
FSharp Useful Note Since: Jan, 2019 Relationship Status: What is this thing you call love?
Useful Note
#20828: May 7th 2024 at 6:18:20 PM

Jethro Q Walrustitty: The transformation-related tropes are all being sponsored by Another Epic Fail.

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MsOranjeDiscoDancer from Revachol Since: Aug, 2022
#20829: May 8th 2024 at 11:43:04 AM

i hope it is just me being blind, but is there no canned notifier for 'you didn't use an edit reason, please use one'?

hail, holy queen of the sea, you're whirling-in-rags, you're vast and you're sad
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#20830: May 8th 2024 at 11:44:08 AM

...There's one that's just called "Edit Reason", which covers it:

"Greetings. I notice that the edit you made on [page] doesn't have an appropriate edit reason. When making edits such as removing examples or rewriting large sections of the page, it is usually a good idea to provide a clear explanation. Other tropers may otherwise not have an idea of why you are doing this. Edit reasons are also not for venting or conversing with other tropers. Thanks for helping us keep the wiki cool."

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
MsOranjeDiscoDancer from Revachol Since: Aug, 2022
#20831: May 8th 2024 at 5:12:35 PM

ah, i was looking for 'no edit reason' lol

hail, holy queen of the sea, you're whirling-in-rags, you're vast and you're sad
Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#20832: May 8th 2024 at 6:47:17 PM

Is going to Trope Finder before making a TLP draft good practice?

INT is knowing a tomato is a fruit. WIS is knowing it doesn't belong in a fruit salad. CHA is convincing people that it does.
Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20833: May 8th 2024 at 6:51:28 PM

[up] Ensuring the trope doesn't already exist is actually a requirement

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#20834: May 9th 2024 at 10:42:38 AM

Reading old Wiki Talk threads is fascinating since a lot of the same issues people point out today were still things back in 2012 (the loss of "fun" titles, the insularity of TRS, stuff like that). History loops sometimes, lol.

Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
MsOranjeDiscoDancer from Revachol Since: Aug, 2022
#20835: May 9th 2024 at 10:50:32 AM

agreed lol. i remember one thread where someone made a SPOON vs FORKS reference and only one person got it

i will say, i do like that we're a tighter experience, even though there were a lot of blood sweat n' tears. mostly tears.

hail, holy queen of the sea, you're whirling-in-rags, you're vast and you're sad
WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#20836: May 9th 2024 at 11:00:12 AM

That's the thread I was reading! The crowner to remove the TABLE pages.

I'm fascinated by that era of TVT in particular because I missed all the drama and now I just uncover random relics but most of the actual conflict was wiped away. The only reason I even know what FORKS and SPOON are is that I did some deep-dives into this stuff. It also shocks me in particular that the debate started so early in history while we are still forced to get rid of "fun" titles and still have people that dread this each time a TRS thread opens. Other old debates have more or less been settled by now; nobody is out there advocating for Natter or trying to get fetish stuff on the wiki, but titles are still a hot issue.

Edited by WarJay77 on May 9th 2024 at 2:25:59 PM

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#20838: May 9th 2024 at 12:01:49 PM

Ironically that thing isnt true anymore and I havent seen anyone make that comparison in a DECADE.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
Discarded and Feeling Blue
#20839: May 9th 2024 at 12:06:26 PM

The linked essay as to why Wikipedia isn't TVT, things nobody here would even think twice about, is hilarious to me. Something about breaking down random aspects of TVT with such matter-of-fact speech is funny, especially the term "overly detailed character pages" because it feels like shade. It astounds me that someone even saw the need to write such an essay. In 2022. [lol]

Edited by WarJay77 on May 9th 2024 at 3:07:15 PM

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AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#20840: May 9th 2024 at 12:08:01 PM

[up] omg really? lol?

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FernandoLemon Nobody Here from Argentina (Troper Knight) Relationship Status: In season
AegisP Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
#20842: May 9th 2024 at 12:42:48 PM

It's good I never check out TRS then.

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#20843: May 9th 2024 at 10:25:33 PM

[up][up][up][up] - I'm surprised that, as far as I can see, the We Are Not Alone Index is unmentioned?

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#20844: May 9th 2024 at 11:33:52 PM

[up]It's linked at the bottom now.

prinzessinnen-und-raben from Germany Since: Jun, 2023
#20845: May 10th 2024 at 12:09:55 AM

Was the essay on Wikipedia written in 2022, or did the troper writing the Troper's Law page notice its existence in 2022? Because I don't see an indication on the Wikipedia page when it was written.

"He betrayed the Staaarks" is not the only problem here.
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#20846: May 10th 2024 at 5:03:36 AM

[up] - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?action=history&title=Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_TV_Tropes

Seems like it, but yeah, I thought it was older? Talk: didn't help.

I know https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not is older.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#20847: May 11th 2024 at 12:56:10 AM

The draft Beauty in Assimilation has the same tone as a Tumblr post about having sympathy for parasites.

TMH-Sir-Iron-Vomit The clown of STEEL from Ichnusa Since: Mar, 2024
The clown of STEEL
#20848: May 11th 2024 at 7:44:11 AM

Speaking of the Wild West... nothing illustrates how stupid tropers could be back then, better than that "Sonic Syndrome" page.

Also, what was "Up To Eleven" supposed to be? Just Administrivia/Sinkhole bait?

Oo oo ah ah
animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#20849: May 11th 2024 at 7:55:48 AM

What was Sonic Syndrome about?

Ultimately, Exactly What It Says on the Tin went on to surpass Up To Eleven in sinkhole levels. It's already in the TRS Queue and cleaning it up is going to be a Sisyphean ordeal, with over 25000 wicks.

Amonimus the Retromancer from <<|Wiki Talk|>> (Sergeant) Relationship Status: In another castle
the Retromancer
#20850: May 11th 2024 at 7:58:30 AM

Sonic Syndrome, currently known as Video Game 3D Leap

Up To Eleven is generally another name for Exaggerated Trope

Edited by Amonimus on May 11th 2024 at 5:58:59 PM

TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup

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