RWBY General Discussion

It was the second part that i was referring to, yes

So for another topic: do you guys think the fandom had extreme expectations for RWBY? Because when I saw the volume 2 finale I remember people not liking it, due to grimm being cleaned up fast and wanting it to be an Attack On Titan moment were the show gets darker for one example.

The irony being that Attack on Titan ultimately went off the rails.

IMHO, RWBY so far hadn't turned so bad so fast yet.

That's fair because there was a tonal whiplash. The end of the last episode made everything seem particularly...Grimm....and then it was wrapped up in no time flat with no real consequences. Allegedly the original script was more serious and the heroes only won by the skin of their teeth, but Monty wanted a cool fight sequence.

Agreed but the rails of RWBY aren't connected properly so it's still a bit of a bumpy ride at times.

Not to me as I felt it was to early for the shift in tone just yet as Roman and the white fang had to start the plan early even then it was design as a distraction in the first place, then with team CFVY being a showcase on how RWBY can be that badass when they get to the point where the grimm become stains on the wall.

Edited by The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion on Mar 15th 2024 at 10:13:19 AM

RWBY already had (and would continue to have) massive problems with it's pacing, there is nothing worse I could imagine them doing than delaying the tonal shift when taking three seasons to do so was already too long.

If I remember right the fight was rushed because Monty did what he did best and add in a bunch of Rule of Cool elements

When Volumes 2 & 3 aired and everyone expected Ironwood to be Lawful Evil and it turned out he was a Reasonable Authority Figure.

Then he became Lawful Stupid Evil.

@Gaogaigar 54 to me that a good thing as the show was not ready for a shift to be darker just yet.

out of left field but what do you all think Remnants total population is? I'm gonna guess Mistral is the highest and Vacuo/Menagerie the lowest

my guess is around the ten thousands to near hundred thousands.

I can't imagine it being too large with the grimm running rampant 100 thousand to just shy of a million is a fair range

Which still sounds big but considering earth has 8 billion it's pretty small

Edited by mcc92 on Mar 16th 2024 at 2:59:11 PM

Yeah, 100 thousand is max for me given that Cinder said thousands with a lot of emphasis.

@The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion

With all due respect I don't think you understand the narrative at all. The entire first arc was meant to be building up to the tonal shift, it would have been terrible from a pacing standpoint to drag that arc out for even longer. The idea that the show "wasn't ready" is nonsense since it had been building up to that since day one.

And in the wider narrative of RWBY, the first arc is just a prologue, the real plot can't really start until the tonal shift happens. The fact that it took three seasons for that to happen was already bad enough. If they had done what you think they should have done, the show would be stuck in a prologue for half decade.

RWBY already had bad pacing and where the overarching story moved at a glacial pace. And your idea to improve it, is to make it even slower.

If RWBY does get a 10th volume, they should just wrap things up. They could wrapped up this story a long time ago, but they wasted time on stuff that could have been dealt with quicker. The fact that the story is in limbo is a fault of the writers.

Three volumes gives enough time to set up the characters, the setting and the plot then change with a tone shift by the end of that arc, doing that by the final of volume two is going too fast with not enough time to process and can be the opposite tonal whiplash as volume two was pretty cheerful in tone while volume three had the darkness lurking in the corner till it strikes.

Heck there is some visual representation with that as in the beginning of the volume it was daytime for the most part as the heros we just having fun, while when it was sunset for Ozpin's group talking about the issues of the world, then when the villains pop the cork of their plan it was always nighttime and it does this gradually getting the audience ready for when the pin drops.

Edited by The-Azure-Star-Of-Orion on Mar 16th 2024 at 11:52:41 AM

No one wants a rushed ending.

A rushed ending is, by definition, not a good thing, but if they're uncertain they'll be able to make a tenth volume, they may not be able to gamble on an eleventh.

A rushed ending would probably be better than no ending at all.

And yet we still got them for our season finales.

Not really. I felt most of the endings were paced pretty well.

"If RWBY does get a 10th volume, they should just wrap things up. They could wrapped up this story a long time ago, but they wasted time on stuff that could have been dealt with quicker. The fact that the story is in limbo is a fault of the writers."

Not really? I'd say the show going on long as it has works just fine. I'm glad they did not try rushing through anything faster. If anything, some things could have used more time.

Edited by Snoketrope on Mar 16th 2024 at 5:14:49 AM

RWBY's greatest weakness is that it has more ideas than time to execute them, the show has a large cast and a limited time to give them the spotlight, a volume of RWBY usually has less episodes with shorter runtimes than most other shows, so rushing to the end would be a mess

That's part of the reason some fans are hoping whoever the show's new owner is does a reboot: the idea of RWBY with the length of a regular television episode/season would ideally make for a better use of its cast, worldbuilding, and other ideas that the current format just isn't really able to support. Though my stance is that they should give the original a proper conclusion before that happens.

I don't think a reboot would be "RWBY but better executed", if they reboot it they'd probably do something new rather retread what the original already did, and while the show has it flaws I still like it and want a resolution to it

But once again a reboot is not going to be a retelling of the original story. It would be a new story built off the original's base concept.

That's not a guarantee though, there are no guarantees on how anything will go.