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Edited by Synchronicity on Sep 18th 2023 at 11:42:55 AM

Sugarbabe88 from In TV Trope Land Since: Dec, 1969
#26: Dec 17th 2012 at 9:34:45 PM

The Heart: Scott is The Hero and The Leader who tries to bring everyone together, despite any differences or differing personal agendas that any of the characters may have. Scott is the character who tries his best to get people to put aside their differences and work together in order to get things done. As evidenced on the show, Scott seems to be the person whom most people depend on and turn to for help or for advice. This has been seen with characters such as Derek, Stiles, Allison, and Isaac.

videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#27: Dec 17th 2012 at 10:02:57 PM

[up][up][up] Badass Abnormal is not "Person gets powers and becomes badass". Your entry should at least mention that he was a Badass Normal before he became a werewolf, and if he wasn't, it's not an example.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#28: Dec 18th 2012 at 4:18:03 PM

  1. Badass Abnormal does not apply for the reasons outlined in the post above. Scott is not a badass that gains powers much later in the series.
  2. Mysterious Animal Senses requires one to be an animal like a cat or a dog. Not a werewolf. It doesn't apply.
  3. Scott is not The Heart. He tends to divide people just as often as he brings them together. He is the focus of the plot as he's the protagonist, but he's not The Heart. Scott goes to all of those other people for advice far more often than they got to him.

All of the examples are bad.

edited 18th Dec '12 4:19:03 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
dunerat Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#29: Jan 30th 2013 at 10:01:24 AM

For the Event Horizon page:

Editing

Dramatic Thunder: In Space!! Lightning illuminates the ship interiors occasionally, justified in that the ship is in orbit around Neptune which has storms with wind speeds up to 2000 km/h. The thunder being heard however is pure artistic license for further effect.

Change to

Dramatic Thunder: In Space!! Lightning illuminates the ship interiors occasionally, justified in that the ship is in a decaying orbit around Neptune which has storms with wind speeds up to 2000 km/h. The ship is already in the upper thermosphere and continues falling deeper into the atmosphere over the course of the film.

Comments?

edited 30th Jan '13 10:08:32 AM by dunerat

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#30: Jan 30th 2013 at 10:09:28 AM

No objections about that change, although it's Film.Event Horizon not Event Horizon.

You could take the noxious CAPSLOCK off though.

edited 30th Jan '13 10:09:50 AM by SeptimusHeap

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
dunerat Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#31: Jan 30th 2013 at 10:54:12 AM

Er, that wikiword links to the correct page, and i don't have capslock on, that's a display property of the In Space wikiword.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#32: Jan 30th 2013 at 10:55:39 AM

We do not want people to use Main/ redirects for namespaced works. The In Space stuff needs just one !-mark. No additional ones.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
dunerat Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: One True Dodecahedron
#33: Jan 30th 2013 at 11:47:29 AM

Is there a particular reason for that? i'm not understanding what the objection is. In this case, at least, both links go to the same page, as there does not appear to be a page for the novellisation.

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#34: Jan 30th 2013 at 11:51:03 AM

Works are supposed to be namespaced. Wicking to a redirect makes people think that work pages are supposed to go in Main/ when we don't want it.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
Lophotrochozoa Since: May, 2012
#35: Feb 2nd 2013 at 11:21:04 AM

For Someone to Remember Him By:

  • New Spring: When Moiraine remarks that there are many babies in the soldier camps Meilyn offers this trope as an explanation.
The entry should probably link to Invoked Trope as Someone to Remember Him By is not generally the result of a deliberate effort to conceive one.

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#36: Feb 2nd 2013 at 2:14:05 PM

That sounds more like it's discussed than invoked.

Lophotrochozoa Since: May, 2012
#37: Feb 2nd 2013 at 3:58:17 PM

I mean it's invoked by the soldiers.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#38: Feb 4th 2013 at 4:49:39 PM

Ok, i want to add this to the The Unlimited Hyoubu Kyousuke page. Its some kind of... cameo?

The Cameo: If this image is true to believe, [1] both The Nostalgia Critic and The Angry Video Game Nerd appears in episode 5.

is this right? oh, and thank you for your help :D

edited 4th Feb '13 5:03:11 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#39: Feb 4th 2013 at 7:22:42 PM

You're right that that's a cameo, but the way the example is written could use work.

I'd recommend something along the lines of:
The Cameo: Both The Nostalgia Critic and The Angry Video Game Nerd appear in episode 5, in the scene where [describe what scene, and maybe what they do, if they do anything other than show up].

The explanation of where they show up is necessary because the example should explain everything necessary to understand the trope itself, not rely on links to provide the context. The "if this is to be believed" bit is Word Cruft: something either is or is not an example, so if the screenshot isn't believable, then the example shouldn't be posted.

edited 4th Feb '13 7:23:09 PM by Nocturna

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#40: Feb 4th 2013 at 9:53:13 PM

Sadly i don't watch the show. I only get the weblink from a friend, and I wanted to look if it was written in the work's place. Im afraid i can't told you what kind of scene is going on.

But thank you. Really.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
TropesofTV Since: Dec, 2012
#41: Feb 5th 2013 at 4:49:30 PM

For Wax Museum Morgue, I've chosen the Loonatics Unleashed episode "The Hunter", where various famous Acmetropolis become frozen statues for Otto's private gallery.

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#42: Feb 5th 2013 at 7:22:56 PM

What?

When posting here, please indicate what page you're thinking of posting to, and then provide a write-up of the example you're thinking of adding, formatting it as if you were putting it on the page itself. Trope and work names should be bluelinked. This lets commenters know at least a bit of the context for what you're talking about.

edited 5th Feb '13 7:23:59 PM by Nocturna

HeroShepherd from Earth Since: Oct, 2012
#43: Feb 6th 2013 at 11:20:55 AM

for NightmareFuel Face Off*

Just because you know the monsters are all just actors and make up and see them becoming the character doesn't mean the final results can't haunt your dreams.

  • In the candy challenge of season three about half the contestants took a "make a monster out of candy" approach and most of them were very successful. Also the dead dolllike face of the candy Princess was very unsettling even when it wasn't meant to be scary.

edited 6th Feb '13 11:27:15 AM by HeroShepherd

SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#44: Feb 6th 2013 at 11:24:17 AM

That is actually two examples, the first one needs to start with capitals and violates the Nightmare Fuel rules on Nightmare Fuel Discussion (being a Zero Context Example), the second looks fine.

Also, you should use proper Wiki Words and not URL links.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
HeroShepherd from Earth Since: Oct, 2012
#45: Feb 6th 2013 at 11:26:37 AM

The first one was just a overview of way this page exists which I thought you needed for this type of page.

Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Now a lurker. See you at the forums.
#46: Feb 6th 2013 at 3:34:57 PM

I think i got something this time. For Real, this time. This is an example for Dragon Ball Abridged YMMV page.

Hilarious in Hindsight: In Revenge of Cooler Abridged, at the end, Goku said these words: "Sun...you grow my food,and kill my enemies...you're totally worth the skin cancer." A few months later He would lose to Superman in Death Battle because of the sun, Superman energy source.

edited 6th Feb '13 3:36:29 PM by Tomodachi

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
TropesofTV Since: Dec, 2012
#47: Feb 6th 2013 at 4:17:26 PM

It's hard for me to blue link if I can't see other examples of blue linked words.

tdgoodrich1 R.I.P 2 My Youth from Atlanta Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Californicating
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#48: Feb 6th 2013 at 4:19:34 PM

You have to CamelCase the words you want bluelinked, or if something is a single word use {{brackets}}. Don't forget to namespace (done like this: Namespace/PageGoesHere or Namespace/{{Page}}) anything that isn't in Main/.

edited 6th Feb '13 4:21:31 PM by tdgoodrich1

"Polite life will fill you full of cancer." - Iggy Pop "I've seen the future, brother, it is murder." -Leonard Cohen
TropesofTV Since: Dec, 2012
#49: Feb 6th 2013 at 4:26:30 PM

OK, I'll try it again. For Wax Museum Morgue, I've chosen the Loonatics Unleashed episode "The Hunter", where various famous Acmetropolis become frozen statues for Otto's private gallery.

Nocturna Since: May, 2011
#50: Feb 6th 2013 at 6:12:23 PM

[up] The big problem I see with that example is first person. You should never use first person when writing an example for the wiki. I'd recommend reading How To Write An Example.

@46: As an example, that seems fine, but it could use a run through the "Get Help with English" thread.


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