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#626: Jan 15th 2024 at 4:12:06 AM

[up] It's not just you. It needs a bit of cleanup, as a bare minimum.

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#627: Mar 28th 2024 at 8:22:44 PM

Quiet on Set has a page; I'm wondering how much of that page is just troping the narrative, and how much of it is troping real life people.

Edited by PlasmaPower on Mar 28th 2024 at 8:22:51 AM

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#628: Mar 28th 2024 at 8:54:38 PM

That came up on another thread with the same sentiment.

Edited by mightymewtron on Mar 28th 2024 at 11:55:25 AM

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#629: Apr 6th 2024 at 11:38:11 AM

From YMMV.The Glass Castle:

    It isn't that long but I still felt like condensing it anyways 

  • Moral Event Horizon: Rex breaking into his children's New York fund for drinking money, after they saved and scraped for months doing menial work such as lawn-mowing, shovelling driveways, babysitting, and, in Lori's case, selling her art pieces.
  • The Scrappy: Whereas Rex (occasionally) goes out of his way to show the children he cares for them, Rose Mary is emotionally torturous, and selfish to an insane degree, refusing to work and provide for her children even though she has a good teacher's degree (during a time period where there were a lot of teaching positions available). And while Rex has a Freudian Excuse, Rose Mary doesn't and could have divorced Rex at anytime and gotten welfare for her and her kids. She choose her life and art instead. It's made worse after it's revealed that she's been sitting on a fortune she inherited from her family, but refuses to sell their oil wells, keeping their family in poverty out of sheer, stupid stubbornness. It's hard to find a reader of the book who isn't completely and utterly disgusted with her.
    • Rose Mary kind of sort of has a Freudian Excuse. If you read Half Broke Horses, the author's novel about the life of her grandmother Lily Casey Smith, you find out that Lily was a very strict, no-nonsense mother who did everything she could to whip her two children into tough-skinned, upstanding, hard-working citizens. And, when Rose Mary was thirteen, Lily literally whipped her with her belt, for being caught swimming naked with older boys. She also thought very little of Rose Mary's artistic inclinations and made her get a teaching degree. Rose Mary's behavior as an adult can basically be interpreted as one long, endless teenage rebellion against her mother and rules/responsibility/authority in general. But there is no excuse whatsoever for letting her children starve, especially when she had every possible means to take care of them.

The Glass Castle is a memoir and the two people being talked about here are the author's father and mother respectively.

I don't think it's appropriate to talk about real live people like this

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#630: Apr 6th 2024 at 12:56:35 PM

[up]Totally worth cutting. It might be complicated by the film adaptation, but those examples should still not be there.

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#631: Apr 6th 2024 at 1:35:39 PM

[up][up]You didn't include the Diagnosed by the Audience example, but I also think it's worth cutting since it deals with a real person

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#632: May 13th 2024 at 7:27:09 AM

Cross-posting with the Real Life section maintenance thread:

Eurovision Song Contest came up in the mod chat because of concerns about troping current controversies. I took a look at it and... holy shit, it's a mess even if we ignore that people are shoehorning the Israel-Palestine conflict or the Ukraine war into it.

Even if we accept that a certain amount of fictionalization is part of the contest itself, such as playing up national rivalries, an overwhelming proportion of the examples are troping real people and events, which is simply not okay. Big Beautiful Woman applied to performers, for example, is not cool.

I believe that Eurovision is an ideal candidate for the Media Notes namespace, which would involve stripping it of all examples. Apparently, it also has Recaps, which are double-plus non-good.

Alternatively, we treat it like a quasi-fiction media article, such as a reality show, and trope only those elements that substantially fictionalize or "game-ify" the contest. In particular, any trope examples referencing real life politics (including Ban on Politics and any/all reference to RL controversies) need to go.

If this isn't cleaned up stat, it's getting the chainsaw by mod fiat.

I don't care which place we discuss it as long as it's kept in a single thread.

Edit: Taking it here.

Edited by Fighteer on May 13th 2024 at 11:29:29 AM

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#633: May 19th 2024 at 11:04:11 PM

I noticed there's real life troping of contributers to The Annotated Series on the character page, especially in the Fired Annotators folder on the Character page. What should we do with them? I know it was mentoned in an ATT thread a while back, but nothing seems to be done about it.

    Fired Annotators 
Former annotators who have left or have been removed from the group under less than civil terms.

Owandt

Annotator until- The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3

A former annotator who left the series some time ago. Was hated by pretty much everyone due to his incredibly forced and lame jokes.
  • And There Was Much Rejoicing: No one misses him at all. In fact, they end up mocking him sometimes by either parodying his Republican banter, or jokingly fearing that he sneaked onto the channel.
  • Anvilicious: Most of his annotations forced jokes about Republicans and technology. invoked
  • Dude, Not Funny!: His fellow annotators did not hesitate to Invoke this upon him whenever he posted an annotation that they didn't like. invoked
  • The Scrappy: Largely seen as this during the Beeupyou days. invoked

Tsinlist

Annotator since- Kirby: Right Back at Ya!
Annotation Color: Orange Brown

Young Annotator. Would eventually be fired when it was revealed he was drawing explicit art of children.

Keyosa

Annotator since - Captain Planet and the Planeteers Annotation Color: Pink

A young Transgender annotator who is often insecure of themselves. Was fired after it came to light that she was manipulating (semi-retired) member Bry into giving her porn while she was still underage, and tricking the other annotators into thinking he was the villain. The annotators would soon find out her past efforts of stalking, harassment and transphobia against other people over social media. Both making her firing official and reinstating Bry back into the fold after a 3-4 month absence.

The last one was added in commented out.

Edited by PlasmaPower on May 19th 2024 at 11:06:31 AM

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#634: May 20th 2024 at 4:52:55 AM

This may also count as drama importation, seeing as it's formatted as a List of Transgressions.

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#635: May 20th 2024 at 9:52:56 AM

I feel like the page might be better off cut since they're not really characters you can trope.

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#636: May 21st 2024 at 6:24:46 AM

[up]Can I get a consensus here?

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#637: May 21st 2024 at 10:31:17 AM

Agree to cut: it's troping real people, and listing a bunch of real-life awfulness we really don't need on the site.

PlasmaPower Since: Jan, 2015
#638: May 21st 2024 at 7:29:22 PM

Alright I sent it to the cut list.

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