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Trying to compile a list of common things that have been known to go wrong, how to fix them, and where to report them. This post should be all you need to read unless you find another one and want it added.

General fixes.

  • Check downforeveryoneorjustme.com, to see if the server is down. If it is, it's entirely on the wiki's end.
  • Clear your cache: be aware, this will delete any files you have stored on your computer from flash and browser games and whatnot. On Firefox and Chrome (and perhaps some other browsers), pressing Shift-Control-R will reload the page while clearing the cache just for that page and the things embedded in the page. Much easier, and it doesn't disturb any of the other pages.
  • Clear your cookies: be aware, this will log you out of all sites if you select a "delete all" order. Search for the TV Tropes cookie if your problem is only on TV Tropes.
  • Try a different browser: Firefox, Opera, Chrome all of which are free. If the problem only occurs in one, there's something wrong with the browser, not the wiki or your internet.
  • Restart your browser, then the computer if that doesn't work.

What's gone wrong?

Folders are screwed up.

There are several reasons for a screwed up folder system on the page.

  • Coding screw up: somebody might have forgotten to close a folder somewhere, search for a [[folder:]] without a matching [[/folder]], add whichever is missing.
  • Folders are too large: there's a hard limit to how much text can be in each folder, split them into smaller folders.
  • JavaScript isn't enabled: If you have a script blocker like NoScript, it needs to allow tvtropes.org for folders to open and close.

Whole page is screwed up (no font, etc)

  • Coding screw up: Failing to close a note eats everything afterward; a [[note]] or [[labelnote:]] without a matching [[/note]] or [[/labelnote]] (or with the wrong end tag) and fix it.

Search isn't working for me.

  • If no results are displaying, make sure JavaScript is enabled for google.com, googleapis.com, and tvtropes.org.
  • If all the results are blank wiki pages, you'll just have to scroll past since they're indexed by Google.

Images are messed up.

First question: is it just one page image, all the page images, or every graphic on the site?

  • If it's just the one image, it's likely somebody messed up the coding. Find an image that works and use the working one as a guide on how to fix the broken one. Alternatively, check Text-Formatting Rules.
  • If the image is "floating" off the edge or sticks out past the edge of the screen, somebody likely screwed up the pixel width in the coding note , if the text code says the image is larger than the code says, the image will float, which can be fixed by editing the numbers between the colons on the image coding to match.
  • If the image is not loading on the page, the image may have been deleted or, if the name is really long, run afoul of the auto-hyphenator. This can generally be solved by reuploading the image with a shortened name (twenty characters is more than enough).
  • If it's all the images, the static image hosting server may be down. Check Query Bugs to see if there's an active thread (if not, you can make one).
  • If all the graphics are messed up on the site, you should clear your cache. If this doesn't work, it might be the static image hosting server getting drunk again.

Page won't save/edit.

  • The page may be locked. The symbol for this is a gold padlock. Clicking it should take you to the Locked Pages page. If something that used to be there was cut, it will be automagically locked. See the Locked Pages for information on editing them. If you attempt to use the edit URL directly to modify a redirect, and get redirected instead, that's also caused by a lock.
  • The page may be checked out by another troper. Checkouts last until (a) an edit is saved; (b) a different page is opened for editing; (c) 20 minutes have elapsed. If a page is checked out repeatedly by the same handle, report it on Ask The Tropers.
  • You might be suspendednote  or have stumbled onto an IP address associated with a known Troll or spammer. Check this thread if you think this might be the case.
  • The page may be too large. Hard split the examples off of the page.
  • Servers may be down. Check Query Bugs.

The subpage icons aren't showing up.

  • If the subpage icons aren't showing up, it's probably because the page doesn't exist. Go the appropriate Namespace and make the page. Note: YMMV pages have to be fully capitalized to work properly.
  • If the subpage icons still aren't showing up, check the page type, and make sure it is set to the correct one.

The page isn't indexing right.

  • See How Indexing Works.
  • If indexes show up multiple times at the bottom of a page: Do a null edit (edit with no changes) on the index page in question.

Can't log on.

The custom title is messed up.

  • Is it spitting out random gibberish? That's somebody submitting the custom title with a text screwup. Try to resubmit it.
  • A custom title is propagating to the wrong page? Ask for an Wiki Word title.

The PM notification won't go away.

  • Deleting the pm will take care of it. Copy and paste it and keep it somewhere else like your hard drive, or copy the PM and send it to yourself.

My link isn't working properly.

  • External links: If your account is new, you can't post links to external sites. This is something put in place to fight spammers.
  • External images: TV Tropes does not allow hotlinking of other sites images, you have to upload the image to the TV Tropes server using the "upload image" option under the "tools" menu.
  • Wiki Word/blue links: If the Pot Hole isn't working, check on Text-Formatting Rules to see if you mis-typed the commands. Apostrophes and other non alphanumeric symbols do not work for links, use the plain text version of the title and ensure that you add a custom title.
  • Single-word links: single word pages need a pair of curly bracketsnote  to work properly.
  • Page won't link (begins with numeric): due to coding restrictions, wiki words cannot begin with a numeric or other non-letter-based character. If it is part of the official title, use the written version of the numeric or symbol and custom title the numeric or symbol in.

Reporting bugs.

Do so on Query Bugs. Be sure to include the following information: IP address with issue, Browser w/ version number, OS (operating system), as well as any addons or other software you think might be causing a problem. Screen shots are also a plus.

Edited by wingedcatgirl on Mar 26th 2024 at 11:21:48 AM

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#27: Sep 23rd 2011 at 9:01:25 PM

Huh, I thought it was changed. Whatever.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#28: Sep 27th 2011 at 7:14:22 PM

Okay, added a "general" entry for trying different browsers. Preferred download links?

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VmKid Nerdy. Weird. AWESOME. from Shuggazoom City Since: Sep, 2009 Relationship Status: Robosexual
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#29: Sep 27th 2011 at 7:17:57 PM

Here's some: Mozilla Firefox Opera Google Chrome

edited 27th Sep '11 7:18:39 PM by VmKid

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#30: Sep 27th 2011 at 8:31:31 PM

And it seems to have done the trick.

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#31: Sep 27th 2011 at 8:46:30 PM

I removed the red text. Unnecessary emphasis, red has different meaning already. The line is little off topic, anyway. In fact, since it has nothing to do with debugging, Imma zap it.

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Unknownlight Since: Aug, 2009
#32: Sep 27th 2011 at 9:33:53 PM

Two really, really nitpicky edits:

1. FF and Chrome should either be referred to as "Mozilla Firefox and Google Chrome" or "Firefox and Chrome". Using the company name for one but not the other looks awkward.

2. The new "official" URL for Down For Everyone is isup.me.

edited 27th Sep '11 9:35:13 PM by Unknownlight

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#33: Sep 27th 2011 at 9:42:11 PM

Added a slash, since I believe Mozilla sells/offers a full package deal that is simply called Mozilla, but is coding for Firefox. If I'm wrong, let me know and I'll change it. Also tweaked a smidgen more.

Is there anything else you can remember off the top of your head Eddie, or do you think it's ready to go?

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#34: Sep 27th 2011 at 9:45:00 PM

Yes, there is a Mozilla Browser/e-mail thing.

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Unknownlight Since: Aug, 2009
#35: Sep 27th 2011 at 9:59:16 PM

[up][up] There used to be the Mozilla Application Suite, but now that's known as SeaMonkey, and it's pretty much just an all-in-one package of its products, including the Firefox web browser and Thunderbird email.

I'd say you should call it "Firefox". Calling it Mozilla could be considered misleading.

edited 27th Sep '11 10:00:04 PM by Unknownlight

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#36: Sep 28th 2011 at 4:08:56 AM

[up] I'd agree, if we're just talking browers.

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#37: Sep 28th 2011 at 5:13:13 AM

Since the subject is browsers... tongue

(I'm pretty sure one doesn't use an e-mail client to read TV Tropes.)

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#38: Sep 28th 2011 at 5:59:04 AM

[up] Thanks for the tip...I was referring to the possible confusion about the Mozilla package.

JK, couldn't resist.

edited 28th Sep '11 6:00:04 AM by Willbyr

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#39: Sep 28th 2011 at 8:10:19 AM

Actually, the browser itself was just called Mozilla up until Firefox launched. The email half was integrated with it so it was an all-in-one. After the split, there were still a lot of old people using Mozilla as their browser and so people started referring to compatibility with it as Mozilla/Firefox. As awareness of what Mozilla is other than Firefox's publisher has shrunk it's starting to sound redundant.

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#40: Sep 28th 2011 at 8:27:49 AM

Under "the page won't edit", add the possibility that the page is locked. Also, if you attempt to use the edit URL directly to modify a redirect, and get redirected instead, that's also caused by a lock.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#42: Sep 30th 2011 at 4:33:38 AM

Added two more sections as I managed to dredge up two other threads that got started. Also, I'm having trouble getting the "locked page" image to show up the way I wanted, Eddie, do you know how to make it work?

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#43: Sep 30th 2011 at 4:47:11 AM

I just described the image. Getting it to show up in line would have been just too fiddlesome.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#44: Sep 30th 2011 at 4:50:56 AM

Okay. Normally I can just use the | coding and plop the image location in, but it's not working. Any plans on where you want to link this?

Also, should I upload these to the site, or just link them? If the image server goes down, they'll be invisible anyway.

edited 30th Sep '11 4:53:27 AM by Deboss

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#45: Oct 12th 2011 at 12:13:40 AM

Added the images as a link. After thinking about it, I realized I can't show images of the image server being messed up, if the image server is messed up. So I linked over to Imageshack.

Any other additions, or is the page ready to launch?

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Unknownlight Since: Aug, 2009
#46: Oct 12th 2011 at 4:08:52 PM

I'd say it's ready for launch. If we think of anything more we can just add it later. This guide is too useful to keep hidden here. wink

Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#47: Oct 13th 2011 at 3:42:59 AM

Also, I recommend copying it over to any forum where you've seen "hey, is this a bug?" threads created. Or the FAQ. Which ever.

TV Tropes Bug List was what I was planning to put it on, any preferences?

edited 13th Oct '11 3:44:20 AM by Deboss

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FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
#48: Oct 13th 2011 at 3:49:14 AM

Just move it the the FAQ forum. Here, I'll do it.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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#49: Oct 13th 2011 at 9:01:21 PM

...Did you think you gave me mod powers for a minute there?

Also, added an item I saw come up, pages beginning with a numeric.

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Deboss I see the Awesomeness. from Awesomeville Texas Since: Aug, 2009
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