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KingZeal Since: Oct, 2009
#1: Jul 9th 2011 at 4:07:32 PM

Do we have any tropers here able to translate lines of dialogue from English to Arabic?

IuraCivium Space General from Eagle Land Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#2: Oct 14th 2011 at 7:14:25 PM

I am currently in my second semester of Arabic, so I can do some basic translation, though it will be more in الفصحى (al-Fuṣḥā, the official standard dialect) than in any of the colloquial ones. Also, does Arabic script even show up correctly on the forums? (Though I suppose that thanks to this post, we're about to find out...)

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Autumncomet from the hive Since: Jan, 2011
#3: Nov 14th 2011 at 6:28:59 PM

Also in my first year of Arabic and willing to help. tongue

[up]MSA is the only version I'm familiar with as well, although for a site with a scope like this, it's probably the most appropriate.

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#4: Nov 16th 2011 at 8:01:41 PM

[up] I agree.

edited 16th Nov '11 8:02:07 PM by IuraCivium

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Autumncomet from the hive Since: Jan, 2011
#5: Feb 3rd 2012 at 9:27:54 PM

So we have 2 (3?) sort of Arabic speakers here. I suppose we might as well start translating trope titles.

المُجاز , or metaphor, might be usable as a substitute for trope.

Of course, it might not be worth working on this until the wiki can support UTF-8 in links...

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Salamandras Since: Apr, 2011
#6: Mar 14th 2012 at 11:19:26 AM

Native arabic speaker from Saudi Arabia here, I would be happy to translate anything for you :D You're planning on translating the site to Arabic or something?

Autumncomet from the hive Since: Jan, 2011
#7: Mar 15th 2012 at 9:09:50 AM

أحلااً! grin

Yeah, there's currently a project to translate many of the wiki pages into other languages. With Arabic, it's hard because the wiki doesn't currently support the characters of Arabic in links. We could just transliterate into Roman characters but then we need to pick a transliteration system. And then there's the whole issue with only 3 people being available.

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Salamandrass Since: Jan, 2013
#8: Mar 16th 2012 at 2:19:23 PM

Actually, transliteration isn't a very good substitue, there are too many complex vowel combinations and "hard" letters for it to be feasibly transliterated into something readable. I'm afraid we'll have to wait until the site supports foreign characters.

And, by the way, it's اهلاً, you got an extra ا in the end and replaced ه with ح. =)

Autumncomet from the hive Since: Jan, 2011
#9: Mar 16th 2012 at 8:18:06 PM

This is what I get for being on TV tropes at 2 am. tongue

We could totally translate it into IPA. cool

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#10: Feb 6th 2013 at 1:20:10 PM

Another native Arabic speaker here. Ring me when you need translation help.

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#11: Feb 7th 2013 at 5:11:10 PM

What sort of romanization should we use, ان شاء الله, if native script support is unavailable?

edited 7th Feb '13 5:11:44 PM by IuraCivium

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#12: Feb 8th 2013 at 3:09:11 AM

In shaa' Allah (my personal suggestion) or Insha'Allah (what appears be common), I think. See here for a few different ways of transliterating the hamza as a glottal stop.

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#13: Feb 15th 2013 at 1:03:21 PM

Well, I meant just for transliteration in general. My vote: Hans Wehr transliteration.

edited 15th Feb '13 1:03:52 PM by IuraCivium

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#14: Feb 15th 2013 at 1:45:12 PM

That works too, but I wonder how one goes around typing that in an internet browser without resorting to copy-pasting.

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IuraCivium Space General from Eagle Land Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#15: Feb 17th 2013 at 4:41:42 PM

Ah, I see. I wasn't thinking.

What if we picked a romanization for article titles and links, and wrote in Arabic script in the actual article?

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#16: Feb 17th 2013 at 4:49:32 PM

"Arabic script" as in actual Arabic? That would be ideal, given that in my experience with the Saudi Arabian education system, the average native Arab speaker would not have the sufficient level of comprehension of English to reliably understand an English transliteration of Arabic; the same is probably true to some variable degree in neighbouring Arab countries, though I don't claim to know with any degree of reliability.

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Autumncomet from the hive Since: Jan, 2011
#17: Feb 26th 2013 at 1:43:10 AM

The problem with that might be that wiki links might still require ASCII characters. I do like Hans Wehr, though, yeah.

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#18: Jul 22nd 2013 at 7:45:45 AM

Another eager Arab here... Hope this isn't dead.

IuraCivium Space General from Eagle Land Since: Nov, 2009 Relationship Status: Married to the music
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#19: Aug 10th 2013 at 7:56:22 PM

[up][up][up] I meant Naskhi script, yeah.

[up][up] Maybe we'd have to Pot Hole everything and use bracketed markup…have the romanized Trope title and then the title in Naskhi. The mods seem to be able to change titles (e.g., those with punctuation or something) though—perhaps something similar could be done here with the Naskhi?

[up]I hope this isn't dead either.

edited 10th Aug '13 7:57:39 PM by IuraCivium

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