General Looney Tunes / Assorted WB Animation (that isn't DC) Thread.

Is the Night Ghoulery one the one that was shooting specifically at the Fifi fandom? I know they did that at some point.

Yes.

Good to know I did well in not finding out.

The worst part at TTG taking shots at its critics is that they also kick down on other and frankly better shows that just happen to have been less popular, like the original Teen Titans and Young Justice, and spin strawmen out of them. When they do that they lost any pretenses of standing on a higher moral ground.

It's also what they did with Thundercats Roar, where they used to classic show as a proxy to back it up in a way that felt like using the old show's figurative body as its ventriloquist dummy.

Looniversity being in the top 10 of the child's category in its streaming service (it'd be more impressive if it was in the top 10 of child shows in streaming period) while it's still new and fresh sounds like a Overly Narrow Superlative.

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Apr 24th 2024 at 4:02:58 AM

People don't make jokes like that to stand on a higher moral ground. They make jokes like that because they're funny.

Like, the hatedom responded to those jokes by going "how dare you? You think you're so much better than the stuff we like?" and the truth is that, well, no. They don't think they're better than anyone. They just think the jokes are funny.

Humor and whatnot.

And given TTG's general success, it was clearly a situation where the jokes were funny to everyone but the people being ribbed.

In what way?

It being in the Top 10 means that it's popular. Full stop.

It being new wouldn't really matter if it didn't take off with its target audience. Plenty of kids shows come out and become duds.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 24th 2024 at 4:04:31 AM

Read the post again, because you failed to get it. TTG also takes shots at those shows just because its critics happen to like them better, which is a disservice to those shows and their fanbases in general.

That is what makes them no better than those critics.

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Apr 24th 2024 at 4:05:45 AM

"They made fun of those shows because they were jealous of them being more critically rated" certainly sounds like an assertion that's completely unfounded without any evidence that that's actually why the writers wrote those jokes.

In general, it sounds like the kind of thing a hatedom would make up when they want to feel like they have a moral high ground over writers who happen to write things they don't like.

It's not like we haven't seen animators be petty before, to note. We know for a fact that the jokes about Bonkers in Animaniacs were because the writers were pissed about getting the name they wanted getting snapped up by another show, but that's because we have record of that being the reason.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 24th 2024 at 4:07:22 AM

I'm confused, is Teen Titans Go a well liked show or not? Sure it's popular in ratings, but popular in ratings doesn't equal popular in quality of writing.

Sure, I'll get back to you as soon as the writers admit they were being petty.

Which is something that, well, no one ever does, even when they are being.

It is very popular, and it has been even before the current streaming era actually hit big.

Edited by TomWithoutJerry on Apr 24th 2024 at 4:09:33 AM

It was a very popular show that has a specific Vocal Minority of adult fans that despise it and everything it stands for, originating from fans of the 2003 show that were upset that the show wasn't more in line with that series.

So... you made it up, then? Because this:

Is a pretty specific assertion to make without any actual evidence to back it up.

In general "people write for series I don't like because they're flawed people" or anything along those lines, is pretty much always going to be false - again, it's the kind of thing you mostly just wee when the darker sides of fandoms make them up. As I said before, most of the time people write jokes because they're funny, and pick targets because those targets are obvious.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 24th 2024 at 4:11:49 AM

> I'm confused, is Teen Titans Go a well liked show or not? Sure it's popular in ratings, but popular in ratings doesn't equal popular in quality of writing.

Teen titans is not a well liked show online offline however its massively successful franchise and the merchandise sells like hotcakes

Edited by Ultimatum on Apr 24th 2024 at 12:08:16 PM

Are you in the industry, or do just take anything said in an interview at face value?

You wont believe this but the only thing TRULY WRONG by Teen Titans Go was the Thundercats Roar episode. Thundercats Roar is actually funny, cute, and hilarious with some surprising Animation Bump moments, but you wouldnt know that if you watched Teen Titan's Go episode about it. You'd think it has a major loathing for its audience, kids and adults, thinks they are nostalgia tards that dont appreciate Roar's genius. Well guess what Teen Titans Go? YOU are responsible for everyone hating Roar even more and then assured no one would want to give it a chance.

Given that you're the one making claims as if you know why the writing of the show was made the way it was, it's odd that you would pose that question to me, specifically.

You seem to know a great deal about what was going on in the show's writer's room. In the end, I'm just responding to the assertions you've made.

That also an odd thing to say. Are you accusing the creators of TTG of lying whenever they say something that doesn't line up with your opinion of them?

This is my gentle way of pointing out that that sort of comment isn't going to go anywhere good, and you should probably cool it before you get everyone thumped.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Apr 24th 2024 at 4:20:10 AM

Fun Fact: that episode was written by Michael Jelenic, who was also the producer and one of the writers of ThunderCats (2011). The episode's ending punchline is a jokey dig at his own Lion-O and the show's "lack of relevance". (And also explains how Larry Kenney reprised for that other Lion-O gag.) Considering 2011 also had its fair share of pushback (though not the extreme of Roar), I think he's well-versed with some irrational fandoms.

I really don't think this was done out of genuine malice towards the properties themselves. Bringing up Young Justice as an example seems equally odd, because that show returned the favor by having a whole darkly comedic sequence in that style, for Beast Boy's flashback nightmare with his Doom Patrol. Some of the crews overlap, production wise, and don't hate each other.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Apr 24th 2024 at 8:00:17 AM

In all cases, it's a matter of the makers of the shows in question poking fun at people who vocally dislike their shows—and we all know how dislike manifests on the internet. It tends not to be thoughtful, measured criticism, but rather rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth hate.

I completely understand their desire to poke fun at highly vocal, disproportionately angry detractors. A lot of that fun-poking is even funny. It just strikes me as a strange choice, from a professional standpoint, to spend an episode on.

Thundercats Roar didn't really deserve the hate it got, but I don't think it was a particularly viable idea, either. Thundercats is a 30 year old franchise, that at the time Roar was released had only seen one filed attempt at a reboot. I think it's safe to assume that if a show hasn't been on the air in 30-some years, the fans aren't going to be in the right frame of mind for it's only life on-air to be as a lampoon.

Removed.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Apr 25th 2024 at 10:37:53 AM

wow

Removed.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Apr 25th 2024 at 10:38:06 AM

it was a low blow from the writers

Seriously, why are taking a random screenshot at face value without even verifying it?

I apologize. I have removed it. The source confirmed it was fake.

Edited by BigBadShadow25 on Apr 25th 2024 at 11:01:04 AM

With those recently-trending Foghorn Leghorn memes on Twitter, depicting him rambling in his usual speech pattern and, at times, giving advice to other fictional characters, I've decided to get in on the fun.

He can be my Professor Utonium. I’m all for the Leghorn Ascension. “Luke, I say, Luke, just cuz your piloting this absurdly shaped and soundin spacecraft don’t mean ya can’t be usin your head to make with the Force and all that balance and whatnot!”

Edited by Sailor11sedna on Apr 26th 2024 at 1:47:23 AM

It would be even more amusing if Foghorn's current voice actor ends up as the new voice of Professor Utonium in the upcoming reboot.