First thing's first: KEEP. THIS. SHIT. CIVIL. If you can't talk about race without resorting to childish insults and rude generalizations or getting angry at people who don't see it your way, leave the thread.
With that said, I bring you to what can hopefully be the general thread about race.
First, a few starter questions.
- How, if at all, do you feel your race affects your everyday life?
- Do you believe that white people (or whatever the majority race in your area is) receive privileges simply because of the color of their skin. How much?
- Do you believe minorities are discriminated against for the same reason? How much?
- Do you believe that assimilation of cultures is better than people trying to keep their own?
- Affirmative Action. Yea, Nay? Why or why not?
Also, a personal question from me.
- Why (in my experience, not trying to generalize) do white people often try to insist that they aren't white? I can't count the number of times I've heard "I'm not white, I'm 1/4th English, 1/4th German, 1/4th Scandinavian 1/8th Cherokee, and 1/8th Russian," as though 4 of 5 of those things aren't considered "white" by the masses. Is it because you have pride for your ancestry, or an attempt to try and differentiate yourself from all those "other" white people? Or something else altogether?
edited 30th May '11 9:16:04 PM by Wulf
A RSIS commentary that Singapore is stepping up to protect minorities, including the Muslim/Jewish communities in the wake of discrimination against both groups in other places.
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
"Other places" includes their immediate neighbors Indonesia and Malaysia.
Where there's life, there's hope.
Not sure if that can work since Indonesia/Malaysia don't have Jewish communities last I checked.
Brenner's Wolves Fight Again
They do have, in various size, especially Indonesia. Remember that Indonesia is a gigantic maritime empire with the fourth largest population, so it's a very diverse country.
The Jewish community in those countries are facing threats and harassment from the Muslim majority, with many having to hide their faith for their safety.
Where there's life, there's hope.
Huh. I remember someone doing research on the Malaysian Jewish community after WWII. I have to look for that since the guy published it (was an article online).
Edited by Ominae on Apr 19th 2024 at 12:43:49 PM
As a Mexican and a foreigner, I find this part incredibly bewildering, considering that Americans are not known for giving second chances, and when they do, they come with many caveats.
This is in contrast to how the Mexican government dealt with the aftermath of the Mexican Revolution, where the government made sure to eliminate anything that smelled of the loyalist forces of the governments of Porfirio Diaz and Victoriano Huerta, and at the end of the revolution, all loyalists and their leaders were executed, exiled, or switched sides for convenience.
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I think that cultural inertia played a part on this, after all, the USA prided and prides itself as founded by righteous rebels, so the idea of righteously punishing a sizeable amount of traitors was likely a bridge too far, and it's only nowadays that the usonian public might accept such a concept thanks to Trump and his cronies.
Aside from that, well, there's also the reality that the USA has only had one civil war in its history. By contrast, our (Latin American) history has plenty of civil wars, enough for our people to understand that sometimes the government has to do what it must to restore peace.
Edited by raziel365 on Apr 26th 2024 at 3:27:10 AM
Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
The Unknown Unknown
Aside from that, well, there's also the reality that the USA has only had one civil war in its history. By contrast, our (Latin American) history has plenty of civil wars, enough for our people to understand that sometimes the government has to do what it must to restore peace.
Still, it is incredibly contradictory, and even hypocritical, that the U.S. has no problem forgiving or ignoring certain controversial issues, especially when it comes to certain groups of its own citizens, or even its close allies, but has no problem severely punishing or even executing certain people out of petty revenge or to make them an example of what it means to mess with the U.S., its government or its citizens.
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20240427/p2a/00m/0na/019000c
An ex-police inspector from a certain prefecture mentions that his superior/s have "told" him to keep an eye on the foreigners. They consist of Koreans, Brazilians, anyone who is of Southeast Asian descent or have dark skin as they're either visa overstayers or dangerous with hidden weapons.
He does go on the record to say that if you're stopped by police officers (uniformed or not, the latter being plainclothes and they show ID), if they say "Well, your hairstyle,' or 'You're a foreigner" when you ask them why they need to talk to you, you can record it (write it down later or use something to record the incident [audio]) to lodge a complaint.
As a Brazilian(and therefore would be a potential target if I was in Japan), I can say for sure these officers are terrible people.
Edited by CosmosAndChaos on Apr 30th 2024 at 3:12:07 PM
Wouldn't blame ya for that.
Foreign Troper
Nick Fuentes is back on Twitter
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-white-supremacist-nick-fuentes-back-on-x-again-2024-5
Archived SCMP page on Biden calling Japan "xenophobic". Started a debate on the issue for Japan to tolerate immigration and the Japanese being concerned that foreigners don't follow local customs.
"We're not xenophobic!" *Proceeds to be xenophobic*
[Editing to add more to the conversation] Being homogenous does not make Japan xenophobic. Being a small island nation with little living space does not make Japan xenophobic.
Being xenophobic make Japan xenophobic, and in general the country/culture is xenophobic. Biden stepped in it by making these off the cuff remarks, but I don't think he was wrong.
Edited by ciyinwanderer on May 7th 2024 at 8:13:16 AM
“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands." ~Anthony Bourdain
The Reconqueror
Hearing Japanese claiming are not xenophobic is like hearing my folks (Mexicans) claiming we are not racist.
While there are a lot of people in Japan that will be happy to know people from other countries, the majority will always look on foreigners as what they are... not Japanese people.
I love Japanese culture, Japanese food, Japanese pop music (more than Korean music),but I was really sure when I live there in 2005, that I was not mean to live with them after seven months of studies there. Despite you know the language, and several of the lifestyle, you are still a foreigner. You can get married to a Japanese folk and get the papers, but you are still a foreigner.
I mean, right now I am about to have two years living in Spain as a resident, probably in the second half of the year will be asking to get the double nationality. By one side, I accept the idea, this will help me to move on in Europe and his country, by another side, I will keep the idea that I am still a foreigner in a country that looks like mine, sounds like mine, but still is very different to mine.
(two years living in Spain and I thank God to Mexico not having Autonomic Communities, the country will turn crazy if this happens)
Edited by Travsam on May 7th 2024 at 9:18:45 PM
“Gaijin” means foreigner, but many Japanese people use it to mean people who are not ethnically Japanese. Teachers have had to correct students who say that they went abroad and were surrounded by “gaijin”—the students would be the foreigners, not them.
Exactly.
A cruel, sick joke is still a joke, and sometimes all you can do is laugh.