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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#1: Feb 1st 2011 at 4:49:42 PM

I've noticed it comes up a lot that people pothole Unfortunate Implications (which is supposed to be for racism, sexism, etc.) when they really mean Fridge Horror or Accidental Innuendo.

It'd be a good idea to get rid of these, yes?

silver2195 Since: Jan, 2001
#2: Feb 1st 2011 at 4:53:45 PM

In fact, we should probably get rid of the ones where it's talking about racism too, since it's a YMMV trope.

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#3: Feb 2nd 2011 at 4:30:42 AM

Isn't this more of a TRS topic?

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melloncollie Since: Feb, 2012
#4: Feb 2nd 2011 at 8:08:57 AM

No, because we're not fixing a specific article. This is about removing bad potholes from the wiki in general.

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#5: Feb 2nd 2011 at 11:16:51 AM

My advice would be to point it at the proper trope.

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#6: Feb 8th 2011 at 6:15:07 AM

I don't think it's been determined that potholes to YMMVs need to be excised from the Main namespace entirely, only from works pages.

If it's wrong, that's different.

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Camacan from Australiatown Since: Jan, 2001
#7: Apr 2nd 2011 at 7:46:52 AM

[up] From what I can see, it has been determined. Quoting from What Goes Where On The Wiki:

YMMV (or Subjective Tropes)

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  • May not be listed or Pot Holed in main pages or character sheets (many have objective counterparts/relatives which can be used instead)

I think a campaign to reduce these potholes would be a good idea. They are frequently used to sneak a bit of editorializing in.

edited 2nd Apr '11 7:57:02 AM by Camacan

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#8: Apr 2nd 2011 at 2:39:42 PM

I disagree with Silver that when a trope page correctly links/potholes to Unfortunate Implications it automatically needs to be removed. I don't see anything saying subjectives aren't supposed to be in trope pages, only trope lists on works pages and character sheets.

edited 2nd Apr '11 2:40:11 PM by HersheleOstropoler

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#9: Apr 3rd 2011 at 7:52:14 AM

Subjectives should not be in works examples on trope pages. They can go in the description, of course, if they are related to the topic of the trope.

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#10: Apr 3rd 2011 at 7:56:44 AM

[up][up][up]Did you read the second point in the "Exceptions" section?

edited 3rd Apr '11 7:56:55 AM by Killomatic

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#11: Apr 3rd 2011 at 9:06:59 AM

[up][up]That wasn't clear. I'm sorry I missed the discussion.

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