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juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#1: Dec 25th 2010 at 10:17:21 PM

I've seen writers, director and the like around here. And I know there are musicians around here, but I haven't seen anyone posting their music in here. so this is the Thread to do it if you want to.

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#2: Dec 25th 2010 at 10:18:29 PM

inb4 Litis

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Litis from Israel Since: Jul, 2009
#3: Dec 26th 2010 at 3:59:17 AM

I'm not even gonna bother :(

TibetanFox Feels Good, Man from Death Continent Since: Oct, 2010
Feels Good, Man
#4: Dec 26th 2010 at 4:02:58 AM

I've dabbled. It's part of my present long term plan to properly learn music theory and become good at it.

AsTheAnointed Moronic, pretentious fan from Souf Lundun Since: Jan, 2010
Moronic, pretentious fan
#5: Dec 26th 2010 at 4:37:08 AM

Here:

http://aevumnova.bandcamp.com/

My band, an experimental metal group with music generally along the lines of the whole 'djent' thing.

http://www.reverbnation.com/alextandy

My own compositions can only be found here so far, but I'll make bandcamps for any side projects I actually complete. Expect music here to be downtempo electronica, ambient music, or more cinematically-inflected pieces.

We used to have a 'musicians in the troper community' thread which I was planning to restart, but you've essentially done it now, so, thanks, I guess.

The other musically accomplished troper I know of is Spain Sun, whose work is (from what I've heard) heavily sample-based experimental hip-hop, although we'll need to wait for him before we get any links as I don't know where he's relocated his music to.

edited 26th Dec '10 4:38:46 AM by AsTheAnointed

Because I choose to.
Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#6: Dec 26th 2010 at 8:55:05 AM

Outside of a couple of musical doodles in my head, I haven't really done anything music-wise (Lord knows I've been trying, though). Like Tibetan Fox, it's currently my plan to become more versed in music theory so I can get these ideas out of my head.

I'm also a beginning bassist, and a slightly-less-beginning drummer.

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Litis from Israel Since: Jul, 2009
#7: Dec 26th 2010 at 9:08:12 AM

Wow, that Aenum Nova thing you've got going on is really good, though the compressor is VERY painful. Each and every bass drum hit really kicks in the head when things get intense. I think it's better to increase the release on it... Plus, even though you've pretty much nailed the synth prog sound, you gotta think of something in order to stand out from other djenters. Maybe glitch elements? Good luck!

I wonder if it's possible to produce a metal record without using compressors at all...

EDIT: Err, figured I meant eliminating the attack from the compressor, actually.

edited 26th Dec '10 9:58:47 AM by Litis

Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#8: Dec 26th 2010 at 9:15:18 AM

Each and every bass drum hit really kicks in the head when things get intense. I think it's better to increase the release on it...

Agreed.

Seriously, I should not be able to feel my headphones vibrating every time the bass kicks.

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MikeK Since: Jan, 2001
#9: Dec 26th 2010 at 9:55:01 AM

I have no musical training whatsoever, but I try.

AsTheAnointed Moronic, pretentious fan from Souf Lundun Since: Jan, 2010
Moronic, pretentious fan
#10: Dec 26th 2010 at 10:58:54 AM

I don't handle any of our engineering or production (I know nothing aout the subject) - a friend produces for us. He loves his compression, which does make the music hard to listen to through headphones, but through properly bass-oriented speakers it tends to work a lot better. I can't really adjust the production much tbh, since George has his heart set on being compressed and punchy and I'm far too clueless about tone and audio to have anything to add or suggest. Besides, I always listen to it through massively bassy speakers where it sounds intense.

Also, glitchier elements are already there and already a djent cliche. I just try to keep the songs varied, keep a good balance between metal and ambient elements, and use influences from all kinds of music. Probably the most original thing we've done is the more orchestral, operatic finale to the album's 14-minute centrepiece.

Because I choose to.
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#11: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:12:40 PM

Click my signature.

Interestingly, the more musically trained someone is, the less they like my music. Which is probably not a good sign.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#12: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:16:24 PM

We've had this thread three times or so. Do you think that I should petition a mod to get it stickied?

(Me: Mediocre trumpet player, teaching myself sound editing)

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SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
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#13: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:17:29 PM

Do it.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#15: Dec 26th 2010 at 12:27:09 PM

That was fast.

We should sticky the Chatterbox while we're at it.

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TibetanFox Feels Good, Man from Death Continent Since: Oct, 2010
Feels Good, Man
#16: Dec 26th 2010 at 2:41:45 PM

In my case, the only performance ability I have is singing. All the music I've made has been sequenced on a computer. I'm also planning on learning how to play keyboards eventually. But for now, it's easier to lean on the software.

SpainSun Laugh it off, everybody from Somewhere Beyond Here Since: Jan, 2010
Laugh it off, everybody
#17: Dec 26th 2010 at 2:50:21 PM

Keyboards are a bitch.

I've had mine for five years and can barely play "Axel F" yet.

I spread my wings and I learn how to fly....
Tzetze DUMB from a converted church in Venice, Italy Since: Jan, 2001
DUMB
#18: Dec 26th 2010 at 2:51:31 PM

Chatterbox can stay up by itself, I think.

I'm working on keyboard too. It's difficult without a proper stand, though. :/

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#19: Dec 26th 2010 at 2:55:12 PM

Use an ironing board. tongue

I've been thinking about getting a keyboard too; the bass isn't exactly a good songwriting instrument.

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juancarlos11 Since: Aug, 2011
#20: Dec 26th 2010 at 9:49:58 PM

[up] depend on who you ask, and who you play with. anyway I'm a guitar player. and I've composed mostly for the film I'm working with my friends

It's not exactly naive. And it can happen. But it's tough. And definetly worthwhile.
xexyzl Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Dec 26th 2010 at 11:01:08 PM

RE: Aevum Nova

I fucking hate djent, but that was surprisingly not terrible (when it wasn't all chuggachuggachoochoo).

AsTheAnointed Moronic, pretentious fan from Souf Lundun Since: Jan, 2010
Moronic, pretentious fan
#22: Dec 27th 2010 at 3:54:44 PM

I only listen to djent acts that court melody, and/or some variety in mood and timbre. With the exception of Meshuggah, Katatura and TTDTE, which have enough groove to keep my interest, bands which do nothing but wank about with polymetric chugging, monotonous heaviness and would be 'technicality' utterly fail to engage me, so I can see where you're coming from in regards to djent.

Honestly, acts like Veil Of Maya and Vildjharta just poison a vast wellspring of potential progression and creativity in my opinion (that's not even starting on the newer bands springing up which somehow manage to be more dull, repetitive derivations of said bands). The whole djent thing is really a very mixed bag.

Because I choose to.
TheGloomer Since: Sep, 2010
#23: Dec 28th 2010 at 2:46:53 AM

I play a few instruments; my mother plays the piano so she got me started on that and I subsequently began getting clarinet lessons, which lead me on to the saxophone which is now my main instrument. I had to do music exams for all of them, which means my abilities as a pianist are significantly more limited than my grade would suggest; because I've spent so many years learning to play exam pieces, I've neither been taught nor picked up any really useful techniques for playing. Fortunately, I've avoided this so far with the saxophone because my sax teacher taught me about improvisation and that kind of thing.

I got guitar lessons for Christmas, so hopefully I might get the hang of the bits I'm not very good at.

Saeglopur Resident Hipster from Various places in the UK Since: Jan, 2001
Resident Hipster
#24: Dec 28th 2010 at 4:12:12 PM

Might as well post here even though I've said it all before, seen as it's stickied.

I play Alto Sax, Guitar and a modicum of Piano, I sing Tenor in my University Choir (surprisingly good quality recording here, although it cuts out just before the good bit sad), and I'm currently a member of a jazz sextet and have previously been in an awful comedy ska band, to my great and unending shame (although we once did an awesome cover of Rasputin by Boney M).

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Wicked223 from Death Star in the forest Since: Apr, 2009
#25: Dec 28th 2010 at 4:30:04 PM

So, can anyone recommend any good reading/articles/things of that sort to a beginning bassist/musician?

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