Pirates of the Caribbean franchise

That trailer is incredibly old...I saw it on Tron:Legacy.

Barbossa with a pegleg, BADASS, working for the Navy, uh okay...I guess. Also I have money on Jack being responsible for Barbossa's new lack of appendages.

Also I while I would like to see Anamaria back, I bet Star Trek 2/Avatar 2(you know they are working on it....for good or ill) kept her a might bit busy.

Edit:Woot my first page topper.

edited 19th Mar '11 6:39:21 PM by syvaris

Fresh Trailer

edited 21st Mar '11 8:17:22 AM by FigmentJedi

I really have little basis for thinking it, but I want to put it out there now so that I can say "I Knew It!" if it comes true:

When they find the Fountain of Youth, it'll give Barbarossa his leg back.

You know, in retrospect, I'm really glad that they established the island with the cursed aztec gold sank beneath the ocean way back in Dead Man's Chest.

It avoids the question of "Why don't they just abuse the undead pirate curse" in conflicts like this if the chest is legitimately inaccessible.

^ You mean for like people like Beckett abusing it?

^ No, I mean people like Jack abusing it. If it was still available, now that he knows how the curse works, he could swing by, snag a coin, go have adventures, and then pop back and drop the coin off whenever he wants to get his wine and shag on. Bam, functional immortality of being an undead skeleton pirate, no downside. Hell, he could test the chest itself to see if it can be moved without cursing, and if it can, put it on his damn ship so he can turn his immortality on and off without too much of a fuss.

But because a throwaway line in the second movie established the island was swallowed up by the sea, we don't have to ask, "Why doesn't Jack just go become unkillable?"

edited 22nd Mar '11 3:55:22 PM by TobiasDrake

^ Life's less fun that way?

I happen to agree with that. I don't think Jack would enjoy being immortal. The only reason he uses it in the first film is because he knows he'll have to fight Barbossa, and it will be pretty one-sided if only one person is immortal. So, he evens the score, then returns it.

At 0:43 in the trailer, can someone tell me what is being said? 'the wreckan has come to life'. What? Did they say 'rigging' has come to life, implying Blackbeard is actually the personification of the Black Pearl? Someone help please.

I like their usage of Our Mermaids Are Different by making them bloodthirsty creatures ready to kill men, sort of like the sirens.

edited 23rd Mar '11 7:24:20 AM by BigDaddyP

The means to becoming immortal from the chest have horrific side effects, though. Hence why he didn't keep the coin; he didn't want to be permanently trapped as an undead skeleton monster.

If he had the chest with him so he could toggle it, that might be a different story. After all, he was pretty thoroughly entranced by the idea of taking Davy Jones' place to become immortal; it was just the realization of how much WORK the job requires that put him off the idea. And now he's looking for the Fountain of Youth, instead.

It isn't that Jack doesn't want immortality. It's that he doesn't want immortality that has horrible things attached to it. Horrible things, for Jack, having the definition of "horrific physical deformity" and "an honest day's work".

edited 23rd Mar '11 7:26:49 AM by TobiasDrake

I don't think I could take Blackbeard seriously now that I know he's voiced by Ian Macshane, the villain from Kung Fu Panda.

^^^ According to what I've read on other sites, Pot C Blackbeard is a voodoo practitioner, and was apparently able to use his powers to at least briefly bend the Pearl to his will. In the trailer, you can see him gesturing with his sword as the rigging captures the sailor who tried to jump ship and ties him up. (Though that particular ship is probably Blackbeard's Queen Anne's Revenge, not the Pearl).

And I would certainly agree with the assessment that Jack has nothing against immortality on principle (thoguh he'd probably get bored quickly if he was invincible as well), but so far, all the shots at immortality he's had come with catches he doesn't want or prices he's not willing to pay.

edited 23rd Mar '11 7:41:22 AM by MasterGhandalf

Oh, I guess that sort of makes sense. But still, what was he saying?

That the rigging came to life. I thought it was perfectly audible, though...

^^^^ Plus, he would be unable to enjoy food or drink or the pleasures of like as a skeleton man, since they feel nothing and taste nothing - I'm guessing he went after the chest in the first place so he could become immortal, but probably felt very lucky that he was mutinied against and didn't go through the curse in the end.

Isn't that what he was saying when he was talking with Barbarossa in the first movie?

I just never really thought 'rigging' was a proper pirate term, but yeah it all fits.

Still, wow, the Black Pearl is getting a lot of use throughout the movies. Why did Blackbeard make such a huge effort to get it? Why not another ship, or try to take over Davy Jones.

^^ Yup.

^^ Because we've been told repeatedly throughout the movies that the Black Pearl is the fastest ship in all the seas. Same reason Jack sold his soul to raise it from the deep in the first place.

edited 23rd Mar '11 5:08:21 PM by TobiasDrake

He sold his soul to raise it from the depths because he owned it before it sank, and wanted it back. So far, concerning speed, we've only been told that it can outrun the Dutchman. This doesn't seem a very good feat, and there must be faster ships.

We've been told that she's the only ship that can outrun the Dutchman, which is a rather bold statement that no, there are no ships faster.

The exact line, arguing with Sao Feng about giving up the Pearl, is "Lord Beckett's not going to give up the only ship that can outrun the Dutchman, now is he?"

Everyone wants her because her speed is unrivaled.

edited 23rd Mar '11 5:58:16 PM by TobiasDrake

Sorry for the derail, but isn't it Pirates of the Caribbean? Anyone mind if I holler to get the title changed?

I choose to believe Caribbean is more of a nationality than a necessary locale! Because that makes sense! Thus, Jack is a "pirate of the Caribbean" wherever he goes, because it's where he's from!

It's like an American visiting France. He's still an American. He's just in France.

edited 23rd Mar '11 6:11:44 PM by TobiasDrake

Also, the Pearl was stated to be "very fast, nigh uncatchable" in the first film, and then proves it later by running down the Interceptor, touted as the "fastest ship in the Caribbean", with apparent ease. I don't know enough about ships to say whether it's because the Pearl is simply very well made/ designed, or if Davy Jones gave it a bit of extra "oomph" when he raised it from the depths, but it's clearly both stated and shown to be the fastest thing on the seas (barring the Dutchman if they're against the wind- with the wind, the Pearl's still at least a bit faster).

edited 23rd Mar '11 6:46:50 PM by MasterGhandalf

Just to further emphasize, in Curse of the Black Pearl, one of the selling points that Jack gave to Norrington on going after it when he picked them up off the island was that the Pearl was the "last real pirate threat in the Caribbean".

Based on the reaction from Norrington, we don't have much reason to believe the claim was just Jack boasting about his prized ship, even if Norrington choose not to go after it right away.

edited 23rd Mar '11 9:26:06 PM by SpaceJawa

... so, I just saw it.

My girlfriend S scored 4 tickets to the press screening at the El Capitan in Hollywood, so we all went.

It's pretty damn good, actually. Depp is actually a touch more subdued than in the previous movie, despite what the trailers want to lie. Penelope Cruz is decent in it, too.

The plot is not as bad as At World's End, either. The credits say that some of it is inspired by Tim Powers' World Fantasy Award-winning On Stranger Tides — a book I haven't read, but I've read other Powers, and there's definitely a fair amount of his way of thinking still in there.