Looking for feedback my Webcomic concepts.

I am currently trying to start a webcomic. My deadline is by march, because I'm planing to go to PAX east, and I want to have something to pimp out if I meet anyone important there. I'm shameless that way.

Problem is, I'm horribly indecisive. I have three concepts I'm tweaking with at the moment.

Click below for a poster thing describing all three with art samples of the main characters.

http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/#/d34othm

Any critique, opinions, or just telling me which one you like best, is very much appreciated.

Jack Of Hearts and No Rhyme No Reason both sound like things I'd like to read.

Still, your art style needs developing. If Jack of Hearts is down in a black and white format, it'll at least give you trime to focus a little on making your drawing better.

But, Webcomics always come down to the writing anyway, and you probably aren't going to get to a stage where you'd satisfy some one as picky as me about art stuff.

Still, man, if this things going to be an action comic, you'll need to be able to draw more than a bunch of guys standing and holding stuff, no matter what style your using.

I left you a critique in the critique thread, but in case you didn't see, here it is again.

"anyway, Zanter you've got pretty much the same things in your wallpaper that I critiqued before, but i did like the cigarette sketch up there with people doing something other than "awesome, " and the coloring in the one after that is really neat. More on the wallpaper, you might want to try...giving some sort of uniformity to the pictures, paying attention to how light would effect the people in the area so it looks more like 'people in an environment' and less like 'cardboard cutouts moving across a background.' There's an excellent tutorial for this by the artist of The Meek. Tryyy...some additional shading, Iguess? I'm honestly just trying to figure out why your characters hurt so much to look at. =/"

I'm with Roman, your art needs serious work. The feet in the top one are ridiculous and disproportionate in a manner that makes them aesthetically displeasing. I know you did the feet like that on purpose. That only makes it worse =P. NRNR stuff, same as before, the feet don't interact with the ground properly, Jack's upside-down heart logo looks like a ballsack and I sure hope you didn't do that on purpose annnd Jack himself- if that story takes place in modern society, you need some serious work drawing the pants/legs/feet because clearly tucking baggy pants of no discernable material into oversized boots is about the only way you can draw them. Pants being the same color as shirt looks bad and is inrealistic.

Once again, all I've ever seen your characters do is pose with weapons. Jack seems fascinating in writing, and that's definitely the one I'd read, but can you really, honestly convey the dark, farsical humor of a deeply unhappy man? Yes, humor. Dark as hell never meant it couldn't be funny. Watch In Brouge (DO NOT read the trope page or at least don't read the spoilers. You need to see the actual exicution of the idea) or Kiss Kiss Bang Bang. Actually you should probably watch Kiss Kiss Bang Bang first, it's moves a bit faster. Both of them are ridiculously dark action/comedies and have exactly the tone I imagine would work with Jack of Hearts.

(Also, Jack is severely wall-eyed, like, his eye is on the side of his head)

edited 11th Dec '10 6:31:05 PM by DaeBrayk

Sorry for not responding to that excellent critique Dae, I just started thinking it over and forgot to write back. I can't thank you enough for it. Brutal critique is just what I need.

A lot of the issues you guys are pointing out really come back to my one big issue, I put to much effort towards new plot content, most of my art content is trying to adapt that, and I never sink my teeth into improving the art. So much of my stuff is trying to get this great character I made onto paper.

The first one was a EXTREME departure. And the first attempt into anything resembling that style. So I understand that it hurts the eyes.

Jack's upside-down heart logo looks like a ballsack and I sure hope you didn't do that on purpose

Oh god damnit. Guess I'll get to reworking that.

I was considering a more demented art style for Jack, Bit of cubism in there, having trouble coming up with examples, but I've seen stuff like it... But basically get real crazy with it, fits the mood, and would help me loosen up. I wanted to design him before I started messing with it though.

Hmn, I'll have to work funny in there. Never really thought that way. it's allready quite the bundle of tone. I was considering have a bit of Shonen in there. Just the "weird and interesting combat" part. Mainly to convey that Jack's finding a bit of sadistic fun carrying out demonic tasks.

Thanks for the movie suggestions, I'll throw 'em on the netflix queue.

edited 11th Dec '10 8:21:28 PM by Zanter

Sketched your character...just kind of felt like it. I've decided his glasses are my favorite part of his design, so...don't get rid of them =)

http://daebrayk.deviantart.com/art/Jack-189308707

(the caption for the third pose: "What the hell is this.")

Oh, and my favorite black and white style is in the webcomic 5ideways

edited 12th Dec '10 12:11:17 AM by DaeBrayk

Oh man, Love it Dae, looks great. I'll have to play with some of the stuff you used there.

Also, quick sketch. First design for the Rogue Demon Jack joins with. Name's Dacia.

http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/art/Dacia-189383555

The other fourms I've asked this in seem to like NRNR so far. But I am having some fun developing JOH... Still up in the air.

edited 12th Dec '10 2:20:25 PM by Zanter

Demon looks good, a bit more natural-looking some of your other stuff. I'm wondering, do you frame out your characters before you draw them? Like a faceless, featureless arrangement of geometrical shapes? this, basically. I think it might help you draw more natural clothing/joints, if you don't already.

I'm uneven about it, but yes. I allways do pose gesture lines. Normally much more exaggerated then the final product. I do shapes for chest and arms alot. But I really need to map out the whole body more often.

edited 12th Dec '10 5:53:15 PM by Zanter

I have settled on T.I. Although I have ditched the style I previously showed.

Here's a WIP of the first page.

http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/#/d3apg6q

And some sketches, with a ton of the newest T.I designs mixed throughout.

http://insanelyzanter.deviantart.com/#/d3a0k1j

NRNR and JOH are still being worked on, T.I is just better suited for me to make a presence with and the others demand more work before I can put any effort toward starting them.