Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.
It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine
They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.
I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.
another programmer's thing
Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning
Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM
You could probably make an Other page for ones that only have a couple of examples. That tends to be how it's done.
Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
You know, I really should have.... >.>
BTW, I'm a chick.
It's super effective.
Character sheets can be divided into (Work and WorkTwo), like they've done with.....Bleach...which looks like it's in need of a Bleach 3. Whoa. Never mind.
Though with Doctor Who, I suppose we could split the revamp off into Characters.Doctor Who 2005 Series, like with It Just Bugs Me (and possibly the older show into Characters.Doctor Who 1963 Series).
You gotta love how Oh Crap is on there.
Also, Grand Unified Timeline AGAIN? We've already split it into three pieces. ...I have no idea what a good jumping off point for there is. Though I think we should probably make an index page, and then make the first one Grand Unified Timeline One.
Also, yeah, the Fridge Brilliance, Tear Jerkers, Heartwarming Moments, Ho Yay, High Octane Nightmare Fuel Perverse Sexual Lust and so forth should probably be split into works and make the Film, Live Action TV, Web Original etc. indexes only.
CrowningMusic.Video Games is a mess. Simple as.
edited 30th Nov '10 2:47:30 PM by OldManHoOh
"Other" pages start catching everything. Pages are free. Nothing wrong with a short page.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
It's super effective.
Making sure I'm on the right track...what's an "Other" page?
Edit: I definitely see now, I skipped over a few posts is all.
edited 30th Nov '10 3:39:38 PM by OldManHoOh
^^ Sweet! And The Fandom Rejoiced is now unlocked.
Goal: Clear, Concise and WittyI Thought It Meant I'm doing alphabetically, since that's how it's folderized anyway:
Does that look right, before I go do the others? The formatting seems a bit odd to me all of the sudden.
BTW, I'm a chick.
It's super effective.
I'm wincing at how to organise HighOctaneNightmareFuel.Real Life. Especially as I probably wouldn't want to read through the examples.
Given that our policy is that Real Life sections are expendable. . .
(waits for the lynch mob)
BTW, I'm a chick.
Looks okay, Yami.
ninja'd. The folder pages look okay.
edited 30th Nov '10 2:56:29 PM by FastEddie
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Split Naruto's tropes in Tropes One and Tropes Two, one for each of the already existing folders in that page. Each page need to be alphabetically foldered, for convenience, though.
In a continuation from "folders are your friends" discussion, can I assume dividing the tropes in the work pages in just two pages is enough as even the biggest work page, Warhammer40000, is no where near to being twice as big as the maximun number of characters?
@ Old Man Ho Oh: See what I mean by "other" being useless? Doing the classified folders would make sense, then leaving it locked until someone with a strong stomach comes along to sort the 'others' into something usable.
edited 30th Nov '10 3:00:17 PM by FastEddie
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
It's super effective.
Another idea for Doctor Who: we divide it roughly by the folders.
- Characters.Doctor Who Doctors
- Characters.Doctor Who Companions (I'd argue that most of those listed under "Minor Characters and Non-Companions" are in fact companions) *
- Characters.Doctor Who Recurrers
- Characters.Doctor Who Villains
- Characters.Doctor Who Monsters (the last two maybe fitting together)
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Sort of see, yeah.
edited 30th Nov '10 3:01:49 PM by OldManHoOh
Awesome.
- IThoughtItMeant.A-C
- IThoughtItMeant.D-F
- IThoughtItMeant.G-I
- IThoughtItMeant.J-L
- IThoughtItMeant.M-N
- IThoughtItMeant.O-R
- IThoughtItMeant.S-T
- IThoughtItMeant.U-W
- IThoughtItMeant.X-Z
I figured it'd be better to leave plenty of room to expand than having more letters on a page.
Potentially problematic pages:
- Canonical List of Subtle Trope Distinctions
- Grand Unified Timeline and Grand Unified Timeline Two (as noted earlier)
- Lost And Found
- Made Of Win Archive (maybe just leave that permlocked anyway? It claims to be an archive)
- WMG.Real Life (I say purge~!)
- Talk.Who Would Win (Do we have a way to archive discussions?)
- List Of Shows That Need Summary (lol)
- Confirmed YKTS
v It's on the list
edited 30th Nov '10 3:13:20 PM by Yamikuronue
BTW, I'm a chick.
How should we split this page? Navigation is a real pain there.
Vampire Hunter
The Massive Multi-Fandom RPG Character page is already split into Season 1 & Season 2. Would it make sense to split the page into a Season 1 Cast Page and a Season 2 Cast Page?
edited 30th Nov '10 3:24:42 PM by GameGuruGG
Wizard Needs Food Badly
It's super effective.
So...HighOctaneNightmareFuel.Real Life. Did that work?
I Thought It Meant is unlocked.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Planescape Hijack
Working on Catchphrase. Just split it into Anime, etc. by folder I presume?
Productivity is for people without internet connections. -Count Dorku
THE SLORG!
To elaborate on what Game Guru GG said, we've now realised that the person who was in charge of adding examples to The Massive Multi Fandom RPG character page went a little overboard with it. Once the page is unlocked, we could start a cleanup operation on our own for it.
For now, could it be seperated into season one and season two pages, or would the latter still be too big?
You are reading this.
Almost done working on Pretty Cure Fan Fics. Just one more red link to change to blue.
- Pretty Cure Perfume Preppy
- Pretty Cure Heavy Metal
- Shining Pretty Cure
- Pretty Cure Full Color
- Futari Wa Pretty Cure Flash Fire
- Futari Wa Pretty Cure Blue Moon
- Bokura Wa Gaia Pretty Cure
- Pretty Cure The Silver Knight Chronicles
- Chance Pretty Cure
- Pretty Cure Balls To The Wall
- Pretty Cure Mirai ~ Spark!
- Pretty Cure Hollywood Stars
- Pretty Cure Evolve Hearts
- Zoomorph Pretty Cure
Anyway, those are the separate sections for Pretty Cure Fan Fics.
UPDATE: Last red link finally turned blue.
edited 30th Nov '10 4:15:34 PM by ryanasaurus0077
Planescape Hijack
Catchphrase divided into:
- Anime
- Comic Books
- Film
- Literature
- Live-Action TV
- Web Comics
- Web Original
- Western Animation
- Video Games
- Real Life
It's super effective.
Question, are these pages actually locked, or am I missing something?
Catchphrase unlocked. Way to go, Haven.
Goal: Clear, Concise and Witty
Okay. The following pages have <5 examples:
That ought to do us. That makes the full index:
edited 30th Nov '10 2:42:16 PM by Yamikuronue
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