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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3426: May 12th 2024 at 11:03:58 PM

Characters.Shadowrun Returns is giving the warning.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
sayaleviathan Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#3427: May 12th 2024 at 11:52:20 PM

The Characters.Dune has a blue warning.

Edited by sayaleviathan on May 13th 2024 at 2:52:35 AM

MyFinalEdits Officially intimidated from Parts Unknown (Wise, aged troper) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Officially intimidated
#3428: May 13th 2024 at 12:17:49 AM

So does Characters.Cardcaptor Sakura (I'm not sure if someone else pointed out this one before, my memory is murky right now).

135 - 169 - 273 - 191 - 188 - 230 - 300
Ayumi-chan Aramis from Calvard (Apprentice) Relationship Status: Serial head-patter
#3429: May 14th 2024 at 12:06:10 AM

Platform.Nintendo Switch now has a warning banner.

She/Her | Currently cleaning N/A
Nethilia Girl Gang Disaster (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: A gay little love melody
Girl Gang Disaster
#3430: May 14th 2024 at 5:29:44 AM

Vaporware.Video Games is giving the warning.

I know more about obscure 1990s Middle Grade Literature novels and dolls than most people.
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3431: May 15th 2024 at 7:28:46 AM

Characters.Arrowverse Team Arrow

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taotruths Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#3432: May 15th 2024 at 3:19:23 PM

Characters.Neo The World Ends With You is giving the too long warning at 281,480 bytes.

Debating on splitting the player teams and Reapers from the character page, or just by splitting the Player teams into their own page.

  • Plan A:

    • Reaper's Game Players (166,320 bytes)
    • The Reapers (63,579 bytes)
    • Remaining Character Page (50,731 bytes)

  • Plan B:

    • Reaper's Game Players (166,320 bytes)
    • Remaining Character Page (114,310 bytes)

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#3433: May 15th 2024 at 10:56:11 PM

Could probably get away with splitting just the players for now. The CSP thread seems to prefer having as few pages as possible, though I don't know how much that's specifically about works with CSPs before they get their hands on them.

taotruths Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
GrafVonTirol I've got the spirit but lose the feeling from a state of boredom (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Standing outside, playing "In Your Eyes" on the boombox
I've got the spirit but lose the feeling
#3435: May 16th 2024 at 7:55:17 AM

Japanese Video Games had been run through TLP to alleviate the too-long notice on Japanese Games. Turns out it didn't affect much and triggered a warning on that straight away. Split by alphabetical order?

Edited by GrafVonTirol on May 17th 2024 at 12:36:41 PM

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Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3436: May 16th 2024 at 7:56:27 AM

Split out series, like Animal Crossing? Into Japanese Video Game Series?

Edited by Malady on May 16th 2024 at 7:57:12 AM

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costanton11 Since: Mar, 2016
#3437: May 16th 2024 at 8:20:07 AM

I’m curious as to how the warning is triggered. The Japanese Video Games page only has 84,615 characters. Does being a bulleted list affect it?

Edited by costanton11 on May 16th 2024 at 10:20:18 AM

animuacid Animu from Suginomiya district Since: Jan, 2024
Animu
#3438: May 16th 2024 at 8:22:39 AM

It's probably because there are lots of internal links that generate HTML tags, though I'm not sure if they cause longer load times on slower connections than going over 250k normally.

Edited by animuacid on May 16th 2024 at 5:22:52 PM

GrafVonTirol I've got the spirit but lose the feeling from a state of boredom (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Standing outside, playing "In Your Eyes" on the boombox
I've got the spirit but lose the feeling
#3439: May 16th 2024 at 9:56:59 AM

[up][up] What I'm working at currently has as little as 61k and still triggers the notice. The trimming I've made on sandboxes make the notice no longer appear but it's still gonna be quite a while before it's done.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on May 16th 2024 at 9:59:30 AM

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TroperNo9001 Lovely Legilimens from MACUSA Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: If the gov't can read my mind, they know I'm thinking of you
Lovely Legilimens
#3440: May 16th 2024 at 1:30:20 PM

IThoughtThatWas.A To E now has the banner.

"I just want what everyone else has, that's all."
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3441: May 16th 2024 at 8:22:53 PM

Whoops, I meant IReadThatAs.A To F:

From scrollbar, it seems A+B is about half the screen. Split both into their own page, or each letter has 1?

Edited by Malady on May 16th 2024 at 8:23:32 AM

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BeerBaron from Pennsylvania Since: Mar, 2012
#3442: May 17th 2024 at 7:35:39 AM

Characters - The Venture Bros. - Team Venture has the warning. I suggest keeping the "Current" team there and splitting the "Original" to their own page.

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3443: May 17th 2024 at 5:39:59 PM

The Millennium Age of Animation - Split off the "Real-life people associated/directly involved with this era" folder?

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GrafVonTirol I've got the spirit but lose the feeling from a state of boredom (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Standing outside, playing "In Your Eyes" on the boombox
I've got the spirit but lose the feeling
#3444: May 17th 2024 at 6:08:47 PM

[up] I'm personally not a fan of these kinds of pages indexing works. Mostly redundant with works-by-decade indices, and adds to Index Bloat (especially where lines between eras are blurred). I'd say remove the lot, but that's just me.

Edited by GrafVonTirol on May 19th 2024 at 9:37:58 AM

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jlvs200s Jogo from The Netherlands (Troper in training) Relationship Status: At the center of everything that happens to me
Jogo
#3445: May 18th 2024 at 6:13:11 AM

PhantasyStarOnline2.Tropes A To M is giving the too long warning, any idea on how to split?

"Stand proud, Sukuna, you are strong." | He/Him
Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3446: May 18th 2024 at 7:07:02 AM

Split somewhere near C or D, because A+B is about a third of the page, judging from my scroll bar.

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jlvs200s Jogo from The Netherlands (Troper in training) Relationship Status: At the center of everything that happens to me
Jogo
#3447: May 18th 2024 at 8:38:07 AM

PhantasyStarOnline2.Tropes A To M has now been split up into Tropes A to D and Tropes E to M and the original page has now been sent to the cutlist

"Stand proud, Sukuna, you are strong." | He/Him
rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (USA) (Time Abyss) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#3448: May 18th 2024 at 1:07:50 PM

NightmareFuel.Video Games is giving the warning.

Eating a Vanilluxe will give you frostbite.
Adembergz Since: Jan, 2021 Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
#3449: May 18th 2024 at 1:20:22 PM

Maybe solit the individual games section off to another page?

Malady (Not-So-Newbie)
#3450: May 18th 2024 at 2:29:37 PM

Removed all the ones that are duplicates. Still too long. Wild Arms is weird, because a sub-game has a page but not the whole series.

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