How deadpan is a Deadpan Snarker supposed to be?

Deadpan Snarker

Large Ham

Supposedly the former is supposed to be much more subdued, and deliver their snarks in a, well, fairly deadpan way, whereas a Large Ham is supposed to be over-the-top and enthusiastic. But I can think of characters who strike me as both.

For example, The Joker from The Dark Knight comes across as a Deadpan Snarker in this scene, whereas he comes across as more of a Large Ham in this scene.

Then again, TDK's Joker wasn't even considered a Deadpan Snarker until I added him as such. Does this suggest that he isn't deadpan enough to qualify?

Well I suppose he has his moment but really I think its more of a Mood-Swinger outside he is might be Deadpan but inside its nowhere close to that.

(there is probably a better trope to link instead of Mood-Swinger but I cant think of it at the moment.)

edited 24th Oct '10 12:13:27 PM by Raso

"Well I suppose he has his moment but really I think its more of a Mood Swinger outside he is might be Deadpan but inside its nowhere close to that." - Raso

... what?

He doesn't fit the trope IMO. he isn't the usual calm Kyon type character, he is a Mood-Swinger calm one sec then Laughing Manically the next second.

... hmm, should I scrap him from the list then? Anyone else have any input on this?

I would agree that TDK Joker isn't a Deadpan Snarker or a Large Ham, but a Mood-Swinger who displays moments of Deadpan Snarkiness and of Hamminess.

edited 24th Oct '10 4:10:18 PM by MetaFour

... should Joker be removed from the example lists then?