Times where an antagonist rejects the heroes' attempt to reason with them in Video Games.
- In the final SP DLC Mission for Ace Combat 7: Skies Unknown, Matias Torres fakes a surrender to buy himself time to line up a shot towards Oured. David North, who had been assisting the LRSSG with hunting him down, sees through his ruse, and tries to talk him out of it, but Torres refuses to back down by asking him a question that shows that he’s not going to stop.David: I’m David North. Of the Osean Intelligence Agency. Captain, we’ve already jammed your terminal guidance system over Oured. Your shot will miss.
Torres: Let Me Tell You a Story. Back when I was a gunnery officer: I had to aim at an enemy ship 30 kilometers away in the middle of a storm. The seas were rough that day, and still, I landed one of the two shots.
David: Here’s a question: Was your plan elegant? The answer is... yes. At least, until Three Strikes ruined it!
Torres: What do you know of beauty?! - In Assassin's Creed III, Haytham gives Connor a such when Connor tries to Calling the Old Man Out for denying the colonists their freedom and trying to stop George Washington from bringing freedom to the colonists. Haytham manages to deconstruct Connor for his naive beliefs in the revolution so well that Connor himself starts to question the legitimacy of the revolutionaries afterwards.Connor: What is it the Templars truly seek?
Haytham: Order. Purpose. Direction. No more than that. It's your lot that means to confound with this nonsense talk of freedom. Time was, the Assassins professed a far more sensible goal, that of peace.
Connor: Freedom IS peace.
Haytham: Oh, no. It's an invitation to chaos. Only look at this little revolution your friends have started. I have stood before the Continental Congress and listened to them stamp and shout. All in the name of liberty. But it is just noise.
Connor: And this is why you favor Lee?
Haytham: He understands the needs of this would-be nation far better than the jobbernowls who profess to represent it.
Connor: It seems your tongue has tasted sour grapes. The people have made their choice - and it was Washington.
Haytham: The people chose nothing. It was done by a group of privileged cowards seeking only to enrich themselves. They convened in private and made a decision that would benefit THEM. Oh, they might have dressed it up with pretty words, but that does not make it true. The only difference, Connor - the ONLY difference between myself and those you aid - is that I do not feign affection. - Done amusingly in the first Baldur's Gate. Having defeated a group of evil cultists, you burst in to try and stop their leader from summoning a demon, at which point this exchange can take place:Charname: By all that is right and holy, you will not succeed!
Cult Leader: By all that is loud and windy, will you please shut up!- The player character also has the option to respond to nearly every attempt to appeal to their better nature or call them out on the deaths they've caused with a response of this sort.
- In Castlevania: Symphony of the Night, Dracula responds to Richter's Shut Up, Hannibal! with this:Dracula: What is a man?! A miserable little pile of secrets! But enough talk, have at you!
- Dawn of War: Dark Crusade. A fantastic exchange between Tau leader Shas O'Kais and Space Marine leader Force Commander Davian Thule. Of course, since the setting runs on Black-and-Gray Morality, and both the Tau Empire and the Imperium are firmly in the grey portion, who exactly is a hero and a villain here is up to the player.Kais;: Do the deaths of your soldiers mean so little to you? Are you that mad?
Thule: Do the deaths of yours mean so much to you, alien? Are you that weak? - In Dragon Age II, during the final confrontation with the Qunari Arishok, Hawke can call him out for being willing to start a bloody and ultimately pointless war purely out of principle. The Arishok simply calmly replies that principle is exactly what defines a Qunari.
- Both Selbium and Lobelia pull these when the good guys try to talk them down in Duel Savior Destiny. The latter is to be expected, but Selbium is normally not a villainous figure and so the refusal to listen seems quite jarring, especially considering the overall outcome.
- Dynasty Warriors 7: Sima Yi says this in Shu's final story stage to Jiang Wei as a response to the latter's Kirk Summation.Jiang Wei: Give it up, Sima Yi! This land needs benevolence that you can't provide!
Sima Yi: Benevolence?! You imbecile! Who wants to live in a world based on flimsy idealistic garbage?! - Unlike other Fallout games, Fallout 2 does not let you talk the final boss to death. Rather, Frank Horrigan responds in this way.The Chosen One: Can't we talk this over?
Frank Horrigan: WE JUST DID. TIME FOR TALKING'S OVER. - Grim Fandango. In a moment that subverts Just Between You and Me, Bond Villain Stupidity and Why Don't You Just Shoot Him?:Manny: Is this where you tell me all about your secret plan, Hector? How you stole Double N tickets from innocent souls, pretended to sell them but secretly hoarded them all to yourself in a desperate attempt to get out of the Land of the Dead?
Hector: No.
(BLAM!)
Hector: This is where you writhe around in excruciating pain because that idiot Bowsley ran off with the quick-acting sproutella. This slow stuff will sprout you, but it'll take a long time, I'm sorry to say. - Final Fantasy:
- Kefka, the Big Bad of Final Fantasy VI, gives a priceless one when faced with the heroes' we-have-found-hope-in-this-dying-world speech before the final battle.Kefka: This is sickening! You sound like chapters from a self-help booklet!
- He does it again in Dissidia Final Fantasy, casually brushing off Terra's assertion that the meaning of existence can be found when one has something to protect:Kefka: Meaning, schmeaning. This whole world's going bye-bye, you included!
- Garland brings up a similar rebuttal in Final Fantasy IX when confronted by Zidane and three other party members at the end of disc three; after listening to them explain how they're better than him and how they know more than him (sometimes using arguments which don't apply to him in any way, shape or form) Garland challenges them to actually demonstrate their superiority.Lecture me again when you are on the verge of death!
- Final Fantasy Tactics: Just about everyone in the Crapsack World that is Ivalice have accepted the status quo and just want to be at the top of the heap. For daring to express a different opinion, Ramza is called variants of naive and foolish. (For example, in the battle against Gafgarion when he makes his Face–Heel Turn, one of the things he can say to Ramza is: "Stop being such a child!") This rarely helps, as Ramza ends up killing most of them. And most of the rest end up being killed by the scheming Delita instead.
- In Final Fantasy XIV, Zenos gives such a speech to Jullus in Endwalker, when Jullus demands an explanation for the utter destruction Zenos visited upon their homeland of Garlemald. Zenos responds that he did it to goad the Warrior of Light into a duel. Jullus can't accept the "petty" reason given him, screaming at Zenos that it was All for Nothing. Zenos is utterly unsympathetic, and reams the guy out for wanting a better motivation, asking if Zenos having a "good" reason for doing what he did might make him happier or justify the bloody outcome.Zenos: If my motives met with your approval, would you no longer resent the outcome?
- Kefka, the Big Bad of Final Fantasy VI, gives a priceless one when faced with the heroes' we-have-found-hope-in-this-dying-world speech before the final battle.
- Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver 2: Early in the game, Raziel confronts Kain at the Pillars of Nosgoth, declaring that he's after him to restore balance to Nosgoth. Kain soon gets annoyed and gives Raziel one of these, knowing that Raziel is after him for revenge and nothing more.Raziel: Shall I show you the same mercy you showed the rest of the Circle, then? You blithely murdered them to restore their Pillars, yet your hand faltered when it came to the final sacrifice. What makes you exempt, Kain? You're merely the last man standing. Why condemn me for simply carrying out what you hadn't the courage to do yourself?
Kain: Let's drop the moral posturing, shall we? We both know there's no altruism in this pursuit. Your reckless indignation led you here; I counted on it! There's no shame in it, Raziel. Revenge is motivation enough; at least it's honest. Hate me... but do it honestly. - Happens in each installment of the Mass Effect series:
- 1: Don't complain to Executor Pallin that humans, whom he thinks are becoming too powerful too quickly, have to fight for everything they need.Shepard: We have to fight for everything we get.
Pallin: Then fight for it, but don't expect the rest of us to just sit back and let you take it. - 2: In the DLC Lair of the Shadow Broker Asari Spectre, Tela Vasir, gives a particularly powerful one when Shepard calls her out for working with the Shadow Broker. She tells Shepard that they're no better than she is when they start working for the terrorist group Cerberus.
- That instance of this trope became even more powerful with The Arrival DLC.
- 3: Though Shepard and the Illusive Man are technically both trying to stop the Reapers, they find themselves at cross purposes, leading to this exchange:Illusive Man: Don't ever question my intentions. I've sacrificed more for humanity than you'll ever know.
- Andromeda: Angaran terrorist Akksul shuts down Ryder's attempt to make peace with him by pointing out the Milky Way species have a long history of treating each other like crap, citing the example of the krogan. Ryder can't respond to that one, and Akksul walks off before they recover.Ryder: I want to be allies. Equal allies.
Akksul: You don't even treat your own equally. Isn't that why the krogan left?
- 1: Don't complain to Executor Pallin that humans, whom he thinks are becoming too powerful too quickly, have to fight for everything they need.
- In Mortal Kombat X when Kenshi tries to call out Kano for being such a tactless bastard, Kano calls out Kenshi's own shortcoming. Making it even funnier is that a previous game established Kano is also one of these.Kenshi: You're a scoundrel!
Kano: Says the deadbeat dad.
Kenshi: Even for you, that's low. - Travis Touchdown of No More Heroes is on the receiving end of this just before his fight with Bad Girl:Travis: You're no assassin. You're just a perverted killing maniac.
Bad Girl: In essence, they're the same. Don't go on thinking you're better than me. You think you're hot shit! Who the fuck do you think you are?! - In Persona 4, the actual killer has quite a few of these for the Investigation Team when they finally confront him. One standout example is if you go to confront him alone after completing his Social Link- regardless of whether you ask him whether he'll give the only other person with whom he has a connection the same dismissive responses he gave you, or call him "a sad human being," he'll contemptuously say "You say the dumbest shit."
- In Pico's School, the villains have these ready when Pico tries to give them a "The Reason You Suck" Speech.
- If Pico tells Cyclops to "go eat dick," he will follow up on it by saying Cyclops flip-flops in his tastes of music. Cyclops says that even if his tastes in music are inconsistent, he, unlike Pico, has never been a fan of "techno shit," and then shoots Pico.
- Shortly before the final battle, Pico tells the goths that society may suck, but they should have done something creative and productive about it. Cassandra says that she doesn't "give a shit about this society crap," and she's been using her fellow goths in her plan, before shooting the two remaining goths and going One-Winged Angel.
- In Pokemon: Platinum, after the player character quiets Giratina, Cyrus asks them what was important enough for them to stop him from destroying reality, and immediately screams that he won't accept such a deluded answer... even though the player character didn't say anything.
- In the original Ratchet & Clank, Clank is telling Chairman Drek that he does not have to go about destroying other planets in order to save the Blarg's. Drek laughs it off, revealing that he was going to pollute his people's next planet and so-on because they pay him to do so.
- In Shin Super Robot Wars, Londo Bell receives an unexpected communiqué from, of all people, the Neo Zeon - in particular, from Char Aznable! Gomez takes the call, asking whether the rumors of Char's turning traitor on mankind are true. Char allows that he's aiding the aliens, but says that he hasn't sold out humanity. Romelo doesn't buy that, but Char asks the Londo Bell what they think awaits at the end of this fight. After all, the Ze Balmary Empire possesses such incredible technology that they've been able to come all this way just to take over the Earth. He figures that Londo Bell's foolish resistance is only going to enrage the more, which is why Neo Zeon jumped at the chance to help the Balmarians, as the one and only means to ensure a future for mankind. Amuro Ray interjects and tells Char to shut up. Amuro points out how Char loves to prattle on about justice based solely on his own narrow views. He asks what value a peace founded on the sacrifice of numerous human lives could have, and challenges Char to stop treating other people's lives like toys for once. Char thinks Amuro is full of it, claiming that mankind's history shows that people are happiest when ruled by the strongest leader. He thinks Amuro is incapable of grasping the larger picture, accusing him of myopically leading people even deeper into danger and then having the gall to question his lofty perspective. Amuro fires back that capitulating to the aliens and therefore making human kill human cannot be correct. Char asks whether Amuro thinks that fighting until no one is left can really make mankind happy, and Amuro points out that mankind's defeat is not yet a foregone conclusion. Kouji Kabuto finally interrupts, pointing out that there's no way to know that until they try. Shinobu Fujiwara goes further, angry beyond measure at people like Char who debate outcomes without lifting a finger on their own. Char figures that there's no common ground between Londo Bell, and informs them that he'll show them no mercy, which is just fine with Shinobu.
- During Soul Nomad & the World Eaters, the assembled heroes attempt to deliver a speech on unification, hope, and justice to a villain who is trying to destroy the world, and even offer a Last-Second Chance which you can't take even if you choose the option indicating you are willing. And if you choose to take the other option: The response?The Devourlord: Screw you, this is fun.
- The Kohr-Ah of Star Control 2 are not impressed if the player tries to talk them out of their mission of cosmic genocide. As a Kohr-Ah captain points out, they've been exterminating species for twenty thousand years, during which time countless species have dedicated their best and most brilliant minds to finding some way to convince the Kohr-Ah to stop. None have succeeded, and the player can't succeed either.
- This happens in Star Wars: The Force Unleashed II, where it immediately turns into "No, You Shut Up, Hannibal!":Starkiller: (on Juno Eclipse's death) You've taken everything from me!
Darth Vader: Your feelings for her are not real.
Starkiller: They are real to me! - In Star Wars: The Old Republic, the Jedi Knight can confront the Sith Emperor and ask him And Then What? After he kills the galaxy and becomes immortal, what will he do then? The Emperor dismisses the question, since the Knight is too narrow-minded. There are other galaxies, and the Emperor will explore them, experience everything life has to offer, live lifetimes as artists, farmers, kings and servants. Once the universe dies, he will enjoy peace and wait for the cycle to start again.
- In Tales of Symphonia, Lloyd tries to convince Yggdrasil to give up his insane scheme, but Yggdrasil simply spits back that Lloyd, as a human, has no right to tell him what's right or wrong after everything humanity has done to both himself and his people (half elves).
- During the final confrontation with the Big Bad, the various party members take turns telling him where he's gone wrong and how he's wrong about people's nature. The Big Bad gets off a "Don't make me laugh" when Lloyd tries to convince him that his people can live anywhere they like, and after Lloyd tells him that they should live in the open if they aren't doing anything wrong, says his plan is precisely because they couldn't do just that. After a few more speeches, capped off by Colette saying that the Big Bad has the goddess known as conscience in his heart, he says "Do you think I'm going to beg for forgiveness? Ridiculous!" and attacks the party.
- In the sequel, during the final battle, Marta and Emil try to convince Richter that Aster wouldn't want to come back to life in a world ruled by demons. (Richter's plan was to create a permanent link to the demon world in order to revive Aster). Richter sharply retorts that his methods are his own business and he doesn't need other people telling him what he should and should not do, especially not a terrorist's daughter and the demon who originally slew Aster and took his form to mock him.
- The first Vandal Hearts game gave us this memorable exchange, complete with the Big Bad delivering a What the Hell, Hero? speech.Ash: You're wrong! Though this world may be wicked, life itself is precious! Good and evil, love and hate. Each man contains the potential for both. You would exterminate mankind for their sins? I would fight the gods themselves to save them!
Dolf: Sanctimonious whelp! How many souls have you yourself released from their corporeal bondage? - In World of Warcraft at the end of Wrathion's questline, an innkeeper berates Wrathion for missing the lessons of Pandaria due to his certainty in his own plans. Wrathion calls him an innkeeper and leaves in a huff.
- In the trailer for Patch 6.2., after Gul'dan turns Hellscream's fortress into Hellfire Citadel, a bound and helpless Grom tries to deliver a Shut Up, Hannibal! to him (complete with a montage of the patch's more epic points). Gul'dan responds with mild amusement.
Gul'dan: *laughs, then sighs* Fight if you must, Hellscream. It is no matter. In the end, we all... serve... the Legion. - At the end of Yakuza 3, Hamazaki, having just lost everything in the latest crisis faced by the Tojo Clan, confronts Kiryu, who begins telling him that he'll be okay so long as he still has something to believe in, etc. Hamazaki cuts the speech short by stabbing Kiryu in the stomach.
