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  • The events of the second chapter (or the second segment of the first episode) of Asteroid in Love is basically caused by Ao, as she freaks out from the profuse stream of text messages Mira sends her on the day they reunited, decides to consult a book on business emails to help her reply the texts. Ao's very formal response to Mira's texts makes Mira mistakenly think Ao doesn't like her anymore.
  • Bakuman。:
    • After learning that Nakai said that he'd only draw for Aoki if Aoki becomes Nakai's girlfriend, Fukuda confronts Nakai and punches him, angrily saying that he's forgotten his promise to compete with the other members of "Team Fukuda." Nakai, who's lost sight of his goals, angrily complains about Fukuda meddling in his love life.
    • In the "PCP Copycat arc," someone imitates a "perfect crime" mentioned in PCP- breaking into a bank vault and leaving behind a note, thus causing Moral Guardians to come down even harder on the series. The point that both are missing is that while PCP are pranksters by nature, they only do "perfect crimes" that don't cause harm to others- when the crime was proposed in the manga itself, the characters decided against it, since someone breaking into the vault would cause the security company's reputation to suffer.
  • In Blade of the Immortal, Anotsu's lower-classed grandfather lost his bid to advance in his dojo thanks to the master favoring his own son. The master used the excuse that the elder Anotsu was too much of a Combat Pragmatist, causing his grandson to start his crusade of eliminating traditional schools. What he fails to understand is that Japan's social system was specifically designed so that higher-classed people could never lose to their inferiors.
  • Bleach:
    • The New Captain Amagai Arc has a villain whose motivation is that Head Captain Yamamoto killed his father. The only other clue he had is that the father's dying words were "Bakkoto," the MacGuffins and Empathetic Weapons featured in the arc. It turns out that the father's last words were actually "Beware the Bakkoto" and that the father had been forcibly bonded to said Bakkoto and had gone berserk, so Yamato killed him in self-defense. This makes the entire arc a Shoot the Shaggy Dog Story as had he not sworn revenge, the original villain's schemes would have still outed him as a villain and Amagai (who committed suicide out of remorse after losing to Ichigo and learning the truth) would still be alive.
    • In Uryu's introductory arc, he starts a "hollow hunting contest," between himself and Ichigo to see whether Soul Reapers or Quincies are superior, since he's bitter about the Soul Reapers abandoning his grandfather. Not only does this endanger many innocent people, but it also misses the point of what his grandfather was trying to accomplish- he wanted Soul Reapers and Quincies to cooperate. It's fairly telling that Ichigo gets the point the first time he's told the story, despite not having paid attention to it.
  • Bloom Into You:
    • Many adults sing Touko's praises as being an ideal Student Council President who takes after her late sister, not realizing that Touko was putting up a façade, as was her sister. In Chapter 10, after hearing one of the teachers say something to this effect, Yuu, one of the few who's aware of Touko's insecurities, makes a brief internal monologue noting how much the teacher missed the mark.
    • While in middle school, Sayaka was once in a relationship with her senpai, only for the older girl to break off their relationship, thinking that they're getting too old for the Gay Romantic Phase, leading Sayaka to transfer out and go to Toomi East High School. In a side chapter, Sayaka's ex sees her again, and apologizes for making Sayaka interested in girls in the first place. Sayaka, who has come to terms with her sexuality and fallen in love with Touko, is deeply hurt by her ex's comments, and after reassuring the older girl that she no longer loves her, subtly expresses that she's still a lesbian by leaving arm-in-arm with Touko.
  • Code Geass: In episode 21 of R2, Lelouch points out that he only wanted to exact vengeance so that good may result for others' sake, whereas his father threw his children's lives away for his own benefit. Lelouch argues that Charles had no right to think it was acceptable just because the things they'd planned to reunite the dead with the living happened to turn out well. But they missed how evil it was that they would've let their children die without even knowing whether their plan would succeed or not. Worse still, Charles continues to blame God when he's been the one responsible for making the world as awful as it is. Lelouch points out that, regardless of the innocent lives that would be lost for Britannia's benefit, even with his children in exile, Charles was still bent on conquering Japan. Even with all of this, Charles doesn't get it, and Lelouch declares that his father is too far gone to save.
  • This comes up in Teru Mikami's backstory in Death Note. As a child, Teru did what he could to protect his schoolmates from bullies, and while he enjoyed some initial success, in high school, the bullies retaliated against him, prompting his mother to advise him to give up on his crusade. The narration points out that she did so out of concern for his well-being, but Teru decided that his mother had no sense of justice, and actually rejoiced when she was killed along with a few of the bullies in an auto accident.
  • Happens very often in Death Parade due to much of the series taking place in a sort of Afterlife Antechamber where recently deceased humans are secretly being judged by arbiters. Most of them don't realize this until it's too late and they've already crossed a line, at which point they will often beg for their lives, not realizing the futility of their actions even after realizing they've died.
    • The black-haired woman is prone to this as well. Most notably, she doesn't realize that the point of the judgment process is to deliberately make the situation as stressful as possible so that the guests will show their "true colors." When she questions Decim about it a few times, it isn't until she witnesses his actions causing his guests to assault one another that the nature of their job finally sinks in.
  • In Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba, this is played with in Rui's backstory. After he turned into a demon and killed a human, his parents were planning to kill him and then themselves as a way of atonement, only for Rui to kill them instead and conclude that they never loved him. Despite that, Rui understood what they were trying to do on some level, and the only way he could live with what he had done was to lie to himself that his parents had never loved him.
  • Food Wars!: Much of the drama instigated by the antagonists in the story is due to them falling into this:
  • Fruits Basket: What drives Kyo and Yuki's Mutual Envy:
    • Yuki resents Kyo a lot because he thinks Kyo has the life with parental love and friends he desperately wants. While it's true Kyo has a good adoptive father in Kazuma, he has been very badly traumatized by his mother committing suicide and his biological father treating him like a disgusting monster. While the peers outside of the Sohma clan can act more natural around Kyo because he doesn't put on a perfect front like Yuki, Kyo is still unable to bond with people and pushes them away because of all the anger he has in him over the unfairness of his treatment from the Sohma clan and no one being able to understand him until he meets Tohru.
    • On the other side, Kyo resents Yuki for being the Rat, the first of the Zodiac animals and the one closest to God, whereas he's been unfairly ostracized and abused for being the Cat his entire life. What Kyo doesn't realize is that being accepted by the Zodiac isn't necessarily a good thing; his greedy mother saw him as nothing but a Meal Ticket and sold him to Akito, who horrifically abused and scarred him in numerous ways, his parents and older brother abandoned him to such a fate, and he couldn't make friends because of his higher status in the Zodiac and curse alienating him from the other kids.
  • In Fullmetal Alchemist, a downplayed example happens when Ed and Al's alchemy teacher Izumi learns that they violated a central taboo of alchemy by trying to transmute their mother back to life and expels them as their pupils. Ed and Al are so dejected by their teacher casting them out that they miss the subtext — she no longer sees them as students, but as equals. Instead, Ed and Al believe that Izumi has kicked them out for violating the law on human transmutation. Izumi's husband Sig has to point out to Ed and Al was Izumi was trying to say, so they only miss the point for so long.
  • In JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Battle Tendency, when Joseph and Caesar climb the Hell Climb Pillar, Joseph notices that Caesar's hanging on by his fingertips, and assumes he's about to fall off. Joseph forgot something Caesar had told him before, about how Hamon is best concentrated in the fingertips, meaning that Caesar was actually climbing properly. Joseph then remembers Caesar's advice, gets the hint and eventually manages to get the hang of climbing the pillar.
  • In Kaguya-sama: Love Is War, Shirogane says that Princess Kaguya's beloved was guilty of this in The Tale of the Bamboo Cutter. The man had destroyed the elixir of immortality Kaguya had given him due to not wanting to live forever in a world without Kaguya. According to Shirogane, the elixir was Kaguya's way of promising to see him again, even if their reunion would take longer than a human's lifetime.
  • In Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha, Arf tells Fate that seeing her sad and in pain from her quest for the Jewel Seeds is driving her insane with grief and begs her to stop. Fate's response is that she'll just have to repress her feelings to avoid upsetting Arf and try even harder to finish her mission. Fate eventually gets the point after her mother makes it clear that she never thought of Fate as her daughter, and regrets taking Arf's loyalty for granted and causing her pain by persisting in this painful and hopeless quest.
    • In Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS, Teana, who's quite competent despite not having much magic power or many rare abilities initially assumes that the only appropriate response to any mistake or inability to adequately contribute is to try even harder, which in turn leads to more problems. During the mission to protect the hotel, she and the other Forwards, who are essentially the last line of defense, don't see much action, so Teana tries to let loose with a magical barrage rather than hold out until Vita arrives, nearly injuring Subaru if not for Vita's intervention. After getting a harsh scolding from Vita and a calmer lecture from Nanoha, Teana pushes herself in training for several days, and tries a reckless combination attack against Nanoha during a training exercise, resulting in Nanoha blasting her into unconsciousness (which is implied to be partly the result of exhaustion). When Teana wakes up that night and is temporarily taken off active duty out of concern for her health, Teana protests and states her desire to be useful until Signum punches her in the face. After learning Nanoha's backstory and more of her training plans, Teana gets the point and decides to use what magic she has strategically.
  • In My Hero Academia, Endeavor believes that the only thing between him and the title of #1 Hero is that he isn't as strong as All Might, never thinking that it's related to the fact that he is an awful person who scares and is a huge jerk even to his own fans (later chapters reveal he has gathered a large Hatedom in-universe), while All Might is an Ideal Hero whose main interest is to make citizens feel safe and protected and inspires hope to the people. Endeavor becomes painfully aware of what he's lacking when All Might is forced into retirement, and Endeavor becomes the #1 Hero by default, even though he can't be the Symbol of Peace that All Might had been. He's forced to clean up his act as a hero and a father, albeit with mixed results.
  • The New Fishman Pirates of One Piece idolize Fisher Tiger, a fishman adventurer who attacked Marijoa, center of the human-run World Government, believing it to be retribution for the Fantastic Racism fishmen suffered, and practice anti-humanism to such a degree that they have no problem enslaving human pirates that sail towards Fishman Island. What they didn't seem to pick up on is that Tiger hated slavery in general, and attacked the city to free as many slaves as he could, regardless of race. It's also later revealed that while Fisher Tiger did hate humans, he was fully aware that this was a character flaw (hence saving human slaves along with fishmen) and hated himself for being unable to overcome it.
    • Arlong and Jimbei's friendship fell apart because Arlong refused to listen to Fisher Tiger's dying wish for peace between humans and Fishmen. Jimbei decided to follow that wish and accepted a position as a Warlord so the remaining Sun Pirates could go home safely to their families. Arlong instead saw Jimbei as a coward for serving the same government that killed their beloved captain and vowed to continue to wage war against humans.
  • Pokémon: The Series: Team Rocket's Meowth was just a normal member of his race until he developed his ability to talk and walk upright, which was a the result of this. He fell head over heels for a lady Meowth named Meowzie, who wouldn't give him the time of day. She told him she had no use for a common street Meowth when she had a human owner who gave her everything she wanted. Madly in love and desperate for a chance with her, Meowth missed the point that Meowzie's love for humans was mostly based in all the nice things they gave her and the luxurious life they allowed her to lead; he thought it was about the humans themselves and that if he taught himself to become more human-like, she would like him. He discovered his error when he returned to Meowzie, walking and talking like a human, only for her to call him a freak.
  • In YuYu Hakusho, Kuwabara gets very angry with Yusuke for not telling him about Genkai's death, after having learned about the event in question in perhaps the worst way possible, but Kurama then tells Kuwabara that Yusuke didn't tell anyone else about it. Yusuke says it's because he was having trouble accepting it, and admitting what had happened would force him to accept reality. Kuwabara, who's often rather dense, replies as follows.
    Kuwabara: Why didn't you just say so, then?
    Kurama: Weren't you listening? That's just what he couldn't do.

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